[mac4theblind] Re: List policy and reminders
- From: Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:20:22 +0000
My apologies as well, I didn’t see your directive to stop until I had posted a
bunch of messages responding and of course there’s no recall feature that
actually works. Didn’t intentionally mean to keep on when we were told to
stop. That’s what I get for reading from older to newer.
On Mar 24, 2015, at 6:05 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I want to be clear about a few things that occurred yesterday. List
> traffic got exceptionally high, and I apologize to those of you who, like me,
> have enough to deal with in our inboxes during the course of a day. There
> were over 40 messages in regard to a subject that had really no place on the
> list, and there were 12 alone overnight..
>
> I was going to post the rules here again for the list, but I then decided
> that it shouldn't be necessary. I simply like this list to stay on topic and
> be a list for questions and answers for technical support matters. Understand
> that off topic is fine within reason, and I tend to let things slide,
> especially if I know the people posting and I also know they will not go too
> far astray. We've had it occur before, and it's generally not been a problem.
>
> Nevertheless, I take some responsibility for what occurred yesterday, as I
> broke a few of my own personal rules about avoiding being drawn into debates
> with people who are not going to back down. Each response to messages
> yesterday generated more list traffic, and this is exactly the kind of
> situation you don't want on the list. Also, it is why I referred to it as
> "trolling", and I had two list members write to me within a half hour of one
> another also indicated that they felt the list was being trolled. One message
> was particularly humorous, and I thank the person for giving me a laugh at
> around 11:50 last night, as I needed it.
>
> Here is what would have happened if I had let things go in the direction
> they were heading. This individual sent me a link privately to an article he
> found that supported his assertions about PCs out selling Macs, and he was
> not aware that I had about nine links I collected or was sent by someone off
> list that talked about Macs eclipsing PC sales in the last 9 sales
> quarters. The problem is, if links start getting posted to prove the
> sender's point, it simply goes back and forth and generates off topic traffic
> that eventually causes members to leave the list entirely. I've seen it
> happen on other lists, and I had to think of the overall state of the list,
> and not my own personal position about the subject I wanted to back.
>
> So, I choose not to post my links and end the topic, and in the words of
> one of our list members, who sent me the amusing message off list and though
> I will not identify them, I will basically quote one of their several
> comments here, "It's obvious there is an agenda at work here. Why invite a
> means for him to push that agenda. If he thinks Windows is so wonderful and
> he wants to live in the past, remove him from the list and let him do so
> elsewhere."
>
> I did not remove anyone from the list, though. I have not banned a member
> in the several years I've run this list. However, please do not push your
> luck either. The topic remains closed, but I wanted to address things because
> I had four list members write to me about this, and I also feel the list
> deserves an explanation.
>
> Also, on a similar note, as a word of advice, if you want to write me
> privately and give me suggestions about list policy changes, I certainly
> don't mind and will read them and may even institute them if I find them
> appealing. However, do not try to dictate list policy to me and tell me what
> I should do in your opinion. Start your own list if you want to run it in a
> particular way that suits your style. This list has existed for several years
> with its current policies and I was actually quite flattered and shocked by
> the number of people we now have subscribing here. I do thank all of the
> newcomers that have joined us in the last few months, and I apologize for not
> posting a welcome to you all.
>
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
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