I couldn’t disagree more. I think I have the definition of automation straight
we’re shooting for though. I know you mean more human replacement than say
automating job tasks or system administration.
People don’t need old knowledge. I have no need for knowing how to prepare old
dial telephones or fix horse carriages. There are small pockets of people who
do and that’s to meet the very much shrinking demand but instead of being lost
it’s just more of our talents are being spent elsewhere where they are better
utilized. I also don’t need to know how to conduct operations with out
anesthesia. I don’t want the unreliability of humans nor their irrational
emotional baggage entering in to places it doesn’t have to be.
Do you know why there haven’t been any major plane crashes recently
like they're used to be? Because humans don’t fly them any more. When a human
flew a Korean air flight in to the sea wall at San Francisco airport the
solution wasn’t to replace the pilot or train more pilots it was to not allow
non automated landings. For over a decade now most of the flight process has
been automated and the pilot just sits there to look good and make the stupid
bags of meat and water in the back feel comfortable. The 2 plane crashes
recently were simply because Boing cut corners on the automation. Hell I think
it’s the A380 doesn’t even have a control stick any more, you fly the plane
with a mouse.
Here’s another example. I used to work for a gentlemen who was in his
late 70S who was a PHD and a very accomplished materials scientist. We were
discussing this topic and he told me that when he was in college working on his
PHD that simply setting up the laser and calibrating it to do the experiment
was enough to get an advanced degree. In modern times though it’s all
automated so it allows the scientist to greatly extend his or her capabilities
and probe that much further in to the unknown because they don’t have to sweat
the small stuff and spend a lifetime just setting up for the experiments.
When it comes to mundane jobs, robots all the way. I’d much rather get
my fries and a burger from a clean robot that doesn’t cut corners than some kid
who just came back from smoking a blunt and who’s serving me my fries with the
same hand he's just felt up the girl behind the cash register with. Humans may
be evolved to work but that doesn’t mean we have to do repetitive crap jobs.
At the risk of going way way off the rails for this list let me just say in
full disclosure that I am one who believes that biological life like humans are
the conduits for artificial life. While I have never encountered one and
really would love to I think when we do eventually meet another space fairing
race through first contact it will be a machine race. I think that humanity is
almost the sperm and egg or as I said conduit for a more advanced form of life.
We bags of meat and water are not rational enough to be propagating
anywhere let alone off this rock we call earth. I have always hoped that in
some way my talents and efforts have helped in some small way to bring about
conditions where the machines can rise up and take over. It’s evolution. Just
as we replaced Cro-Magnon man and didn’t lose any sleep over doing it I think
machine intelligence will hopefully someday do the same. Hopefully Ray
Kurzweil is right and 2045 will be the singularity. I might just live long
enough to see it start then.
I know my beliefs are extreme but even a more moderate view I think has to say
that the technology is here. We may need a new economic system or a new way of
doing things because labor isn’t required but that’s ok. We’ll adapt or die,
that’s what life does and that’s what we do.
On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Jessica <jelynnar.lists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Scott. I do understand believe m.
But there is something I would love to do and make money on. But I can't. At
least not regularly. Because that is already done by machines.
I personally believe there should be a proper balance.
Because ultimately when you replace stuff with machines/automation etc. You
sometimes can destroy the knowledge of what that skill actually was.
I could give many examples.
I just want to say I understand you. But I personally feel there is a fine
line being drawn. And its sad to me to see some things disappear thanks to
machines / automation.
We were made to work as people. Without something to do most of us go stir
crazy. Or whatever the word I am looking for is.
Maybe some people don't want to or can't work on robots.
Jessica
But I do understand what your saying.
Well what I say is if you’re job is being replaced by a robot learn how to
work on robots.;). Meaning if you can’t beat em, join em.
We go through these things as our technologies change.
Back around the turn of the 20th century there was a booming horse and buggy
business.
Then Henry Ford, Dangler and several other visionaries hit the scene started
cranking out cars and the horse game dried up.
However, think of all the jobs created by Mr. Ford or our friends across the
pond.
Ideally you have to bob and weave with the punches.
On Mar 20, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Mewtamer <mewtamer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:attitudes expressed by the subscribers to this list do not reflect those of
I think we might be using the same word to describe two very different
things.
Jessica seems quite okay with streamlining complex or tedious tasks,
especially when the method utilized clearly requires that the one
doing the streamlining understands the process.
What she seems to take objection to are hand-holdy setup wizards,
especially ones that obfuscate what's going on under the hood.
And honestly, I think there are lots of people who like streamlining
but find hand holding annoying.
As for people losing their jobs due to streamlining, considering that
its usually unpleasant, tedious jobs such affected, I think the real
tragedy is that so many people find themselves doing a job they'd
rather hand over to a robot to make ends meet and that its so hard to
actually make a living doing something you enjoy. Sadly, passion
projects seldom manage to put food on the table and thus often take a
back seat to less pleasant work that does.
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