Scott. I think we have two different philosophies here. And I can tell you
right now I will never agree with you on this. So I am going to let it alone.
I have learned too many times. Certain topics should be left alone.
I wouldn't have even responded to this. But I wanted to let you know I did read
it. And I do understand what your saying.
I disagree is all.
Thanks for your input.
Jessica
I couldnât disagree more. I think I have the definition of automation
straight weâre shooting for though.
I know you mean more human replacement than say automating job tasks or system
administration.
People donât need old knowledge. I have no need for knowing how to prepare
old dial telephones or fix horse carriages.
There are small pockets of people who do and thatâs to meet the very much
shrinking demand but instead of being lost itâs just more of our talents are
being spent elsewhere where they are better utilized.
I also donât need to know how to conduct operations with out anesthesia.
I donât want the unreliability of humans nor their irrational emotional
baggage entering in to places it doesnât have to be.
Do you know why there havenât been any major plane crashes recently like
they're used to be? Because humans donât fly them any more.
When a human flew a Korean air flight in to the sea wall at San Francisco
airport the solution wasnât to replace the pilot or train more pilots it was
to not allow non automated landings.
For over a decade now most of the flight process has been automated and the
pilot just sits there to look good and make the stupid bags of meat and water
in the back feel comfortable. The 2 plane crashes recently were simply because
Boing cut corners on the automation.
Hell I think itâs the A380 doesnât even have a control stick any more,
you fly the plane with a mouse.
Hereâs another example. I used to work for a gentlemen who was in his late
70S who was a PHD and a very accomplished materials scientist.
We were discussing this topic and he told me that when he was in college
working on his PHD that simply setting up the laser and calibrating it to do
the experiment was enough to get an advanced degree.
In modern times though itâs all automated so it allows the scientist to
greatly extend his or her capabilities and probe that much further in to the
unknown because they donât have to sweat the small stuff and spend a lifetime
just setting up for the experiments.
When it comes to mundane jobs, robots all the way.
Iâd much rather get my fries and a burger from a clean robot that doesnât
cut corners than some kid who just came back from smoking a blunt and whoâs
serving me my fries with the same hand he's just felt up the girl behind the
cash register with. Humans may be evolved to work but that doesnât mean we
have to do repetitive crap jobs.
At the risk of going way way off the rails for this list let me just say in
full disclosure that I am one who believes that biological life like humans are
the conduits for artificial life. While I have never encountered one and really
would love to I think when we do eventually meet another space fairing race
through first contact it will be a machine race.
I think that humanity is almost the sperm and egg or as I said conduit for a
more advanced form of life.
We bags of meat and water are not rational enough to be propagating anywhere
let alone off this rock we call earth.
I have always hoped that in some way my talents and efforts have helped in some
small way to bring about conditions where the machines can rise up and take
over.
Itâs evolution. Just as we replaced Cro-Magnon man and didnât lose any
sleep over doing it I think machine intelligence will hopefully someday do the
same.
Hopefully Ray Kurzweil is right and 2045 will be the singularity.
I might just live long enough to see it start then.
I know my beliefs are extreme but even a more moderate view I think has to say
that the technology is here. We may need a new economic system or a new way of
doing things because labor isnât required but thatâs ok.
Weâll adapt or die, thatâs what life does and thatâs what we do.
On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Jessica <jelynnar.lists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:At least not regularly. Because that is already done by machines.
Scott. I do understand believe m.
But there is something I would love to do and make money on. But I can't.
You sometimes can destroy the knowledge of what that skill actually was.
I personally believe there should be a proper balance.
Because ultimately when you replace stuff with machines/automation etc.
But I personally feel there is a fine line being drawn.
I could give many examples.
I just want to say I understand you.
Or whatever the word I am looking for is.
We were made to work as people. Without something to do most of us go stir
crazy.
the Foundation.
Maybe some people don't want to or can't work on robots.
Jessica
But I do understand what your saying.
Well what I say is if youâre job is being replaced by a robot learn how to
work on robots.;). Meaning if you canât beat em, join em.
We go through these things as our technologies change.
Back around the turn of the 20th century there was a booming horse and buggy
business.
Then Henry Ford, Dangler and several other visionaries hit the scene started
cranking out cars and the horse game dried up.
However, think of all the jobs created by Mr. Ford or our friends across the
pond.
Ideally you have to bob and weave with the punches.
On Mar 20, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Mewtamer <mewtamer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:attitudes expressed by the subscribers to this list do not reflect those of
I think we might be using the same word to describe two very different
things.
Jessica seems quite okay with streamlining complex or tedious tasks,
especially when the method utilized clearly requires that the one
doing the streamlining understands the process.
What she seems to take objection to are hand-holdy setup wizards,
especially ones that obfuscate what's going on under the hood.
And honestly, I think there are lots of people who like streamlining
but find hand holding annoying.
As for people losing their jobs due to streamlining, considering that
its usually unpleasant, tedious jobs such affected, I think the real
tragedy is that so many people find themselves doing a job they'd
rather hand over to a robot to make ends meet and that its so hard to
actually make a living doing something you enjoy. Sadly, passion
projects seldom manage to put food on the table and thus often take a
back seat to less pleasant work that does.
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