[sib-access] Re: The current state of accessibility in Sibelius 7.51 Please read carefully!

  • From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:57:48 -0400

Kevin, are the NVDA folks aware of this as well? Can anything be done 
with some sort of NVDA add-on? I gather this involves knowing some python.

At 01:49 PM 9/17/2014, you wrote:
>Wait a minute before you upgrade.  Everyone on this list read what 
>I'm about to say very carefully, please!
>
>The accessibility available in Sibelius 7.51 is not as good as we 
>have been used to in 5.25, or for those of us who had the beta 
>scripts for 6.20.  For example, it is not possible to know whether a 
>note has an articulation mark attached to it.  hairpins and slurs 
>can be attached.  But, when reviewing a score, NVDA will 
>consistently misreport the start and end point of a hairpin or slur.
>
>Gord has written a section in our documentation explaining what can 
>and can't be done when writing lyrics under music.
>
>The mixer is still completely inaccessible.
>
>Please wait until our documentation is posted on the Avid 
>website.  You will be able to read this documentation without 
>purchasing the product.  I can't recommend reading this 
>documentation strongly enough before, yes, that's before you 
>purchase Sibelius 7.51.  Accessibility is definitely a work in 
>progress and you will probably be sorely disappointed if you migrate 
>from 5.25 to 7.51, as the level of accessibility in 7.51 is nowhere 
>near what we have in 5.25.  Future versions will improve this.  But 
>you need to have no illusions about the current state of accessibility.
>
>Kevin
>On Sep 17, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
>
> > Kevin. Thank you! That is some of the best news I've heard in months!
> > I'd better upgrade to Sib7 then. (grin)
> >
> >
> > At 11:11 AM 9/17/2014, you wrote:
> >> Guys,
> >> This may be as good a time as any to let a cat out of the bag.
> >>
> >> Gordon Kent and I have been working closely with the folks at Avid
> >> to enhance accessibility in Sibelius 7.51.  It may be completely
> >> coincidental that Avid has decided not to offer downgrades.  But we
> >> will be offering some special blind centric documentation for
> >> Sibelius 7.51 and NVDA very soon.  No JFW or scripts needed.
> >>
> >> Watch this space in the next month or so.
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Tim Burgess <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Me too.
> >>>
> >>> I've sent a message to the product manager - I've got an automated
> >>> out-of-office reply, but I know that this chap will respond as soon as he
> >>> possibly can.
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes.
> >>> Tim Burgess
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chi Kim
> >>> Sent: 17 September 2014 15:20
> >>> To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [sib-access] Re: Problem: Avid Won't Downgrade Sibelius 7 to
> >>> Sibelius 5 Anymore
> >>>
> >>> Tim, thanks for investigating. Please keep us updated.
> >>> I really hope I'm wrong about this.
> >>>
> >>> Chi
> >>> On 9/17/2014 9:28 AM, Tim Burgess wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm querying this state of affairs via my contacts within Avid and will
> >>> post
> >>>> a definitive statement from them as and when I receive a reply.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best wishes.
> >>>> Tim Burgess
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chi Kim
> >>>> Sent: 17 September 2014 13:27
> >>>> To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [sib-access] Problem: Avid Won't Downgrade Sibelius 7 
> to Sibelius
> >>> 5
> >>>> Anymore
> >>>>
> >>>> HI All,
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a sad news. I just talked to Avid tech support last Friday to
> >>>> help one of my students, and they won't let you downgrade anymore.
> >>>> The tech support told me that he cannot generate a new serial for
> >>>> Sibelius 5 apparently.
> >>>> He was aware of the accessibility with Sibelius 5 and the script. I
> >>>> suspect this is going to be a huge problem now for new users.
> >>>>
> >>>> Chi
> >>>>
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