Kevin, are the NVDA folks aware of this as well? Can anything be done with some sort of NVDA add-on? I gather this involves knowing some python. At 01:49 PM 9/17/2014, you wrote: >Wait a minute before you upgrade. Everyone on this list read what >I'm about to say very carefully, please! > >The accessibility available in Sibelius 7.51 is not as good as we >have been used to in 5.25, or for those of us who had the beta >scripts for 6.20. For example, it is not possible to know whether a >note has an articulation mark attached to it. hairpins and slurs >can be attached. But, when reviewing a score, NVDA will >consistently misreport the start and end point of a hairpin or slur. > >Gord has written a section in our documentation explaining what can >and can't be done when writing lyrics under music. > >The mixer is still completely inaccessible. > >Please wait until our documentation is posted on the Avid >website. You will be able to read this documentation without >purchasing the product. I can't recommend reading this >documentation strongly enough before, yes, that's before you >purchase Sibelius 7.51. Accessibility is definitely a work in >progress and you will probably be sorely disappointed if you migrate >from 5.25 to 7.51, as the level of accessibility in 7.51 is nowhere >near what we have in 5.25. Future versions will improve this. But >you need to have no illusions about the current state of accessibility. > >Kevin >On Sep 17, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > > > Kevin. Thank you! That is some of the best news I've heard in months! > > I'd better upgrade to Sib7 then. (grin) > > > > > > At 11:11 AM 9/17/2014, you wrote: > >> Guys, > >> This may be as good a time as any to let a cat out of the bag. > >> > >> Gordon Kent and I have been working closely with the folks at Avid > >> to enhance accessibility in Sibelius 7.51. It may be completely > >> coincidental that Avid has decided not to offer downgrades. But we > >> will be offering some special blind centric documentation for > >> Sibelius 7.51 and NVDA very soon. No JFW or scripts needed. > >> > >> Watch this space in the next month or so. > >> > >> Kevin > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Sep 17, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Tim Burgess <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >>> Me too. > >>> > >>> I've sent a message to the product manager - I've got an automated > >>> out-of-office reply, but I know that this chap will respond as soon as he > >>> possibly can. > >>> > >>> Best wishes. > >>> Tim Burgess > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chi Kim > >>> Sent: 17 September 2014 15:20 > >>> To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Subject: [sib-access] Re: Problem: Avid Won't Downgrade Sibelius 7 to > >>> Sibelius 5 Anymore > >>> > >>> Tim, thanks for investigating. Please keep us updated. > >>> I really hope I'm wrong about this. > >>> > >>> Chi > >>> On 9/17/2014 9:28 AM, Tim Burgess wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> I'm querying this state of affairs via my contacts within Avid and will > >>> post > >>>> a definitive statement from them as and when I receive a reply. > >>>> > >>>> Best wishes. > >>>> Tim Burgess > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chi Kim > >>>> Sent: 17 September 2014 13:27 > >>>> To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Subject: [sib-access] Problem: Avid Won't Downgrade Sibelius 7 > to Sibelius > >>> 5 > >>>> Anymore > >>>> > >>>> HI All, > >>>> > >>>> This is a sad news. I just talked to Avid tech support last Friday to > >>>> help one of my students, and they won't let you downgrade anymore. > >>>> The tech support told me that he cannot generate a new serial for > >>>> Sibelius 5 apparently. > >>>> He was aware of the accessibility with Sibelius 5 and the script. I > >>>> suspect this is going to be a huge problem now for new users. > >>>> > >>>> Chi > >>>> > >>>> If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message > >>>> with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: > >>>> sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> > >>>> If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message > >>>> with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: > >>>> sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message > >>> with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: > >>> sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message > >>> with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: > >>> sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message > >> with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: > >> sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message > > with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: > > sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message >with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: >sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx