A little explanation on the opportunism of nesting Barn Swallows at Cliff Swallow nest sites. David, You might go back and look closely at the base of the nest and you might find the original structure was a Cliff Swallow nest. There is a difference in the pellets and material between the two and division lines can be seen. I've check a lot of swallow nest sites, at first because they were interesting to watch and then I got interested in Bank Swallow colonies. Then in finding first Cliff nestings in the counties along the Mississippi River. Mark Greene reminds me that the first nesting in west TN found by Ben Coffey was at a covered boat dock in Shelby Forest. Mark and I found the first for Obion County at a boat shelter at Reelfoot after I watched a flyby on May 26, 1997. Now my main interest is in finding a Cave Swallow nest here in TN. I had short and distant looks of a bird here in Memphis that was most likely a Cave Swallow but the photos were not conclusive, so a nest or a bird visiting a colony is the next best chance to adding this bird to the list. I have seen a lot of interesting things spending long hours watching these colonies. I found Rough-winged Swallows nesting in Bank Swallow holes. I located the first Bank Swallow nests for Mississippi and when checking one hole grabbed a Black Rat Snake that was sleeping inside. I was checking these nests after breeding season because I had seen both Bank and Rough-winged in the area and there is a difference in the type material found in the lining of the two species. Needless to say the snake was an UNEXPECTED BONUS. This small colony was active a couple of years and I did not check the inside of the nests again! At the Bank Swallow colony at Fulton, TN, on the Mississippi River I found a Cliff Swallow nest in the middle of the Bank Swallow colony, stuck to the under side of a terra cotta pipe; evidently the pipe was part of a septic system of a building long since lost to the river. Good Birding!!! Jeff R. Wilson OL' COOT / TLBA Bartlett Tenn. =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net Owner: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN jwcoffey@xxxxxxxxxx (423) 764-3958 =========================================================