Cindy, I got it and will check it out as soon as I can. Thanks for your patience. Amy----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Dialect in books
Perhaps you mis-spelled it in the title space of advanced search? It was put into the collection a long time ago. Here is the tiny URL for the book in the collection. Cindy --- Amy Goldring Tajalli <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I tried but cannot download Forrest Gump as it is not even listed yet but will try one of the others soon. Any----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Dialect in books > Amy, > > No, I mean dialect. Download Forrest Gump, or --the > Catherine Cookson novel I passed up isn't in the > collection--I tink it was Fifteen Streets--but > possibly Kate Hannigan or A Nice Bloke. (I must say > that from the titles and synopses of her books in the > collection, they sound interesting and maybe I'll try > some from the library) but the two that were on the > download list before were full of cockney and so I > released them. > > I don't mean when I validate--I mean when I read to > myself, I mentally translate the dialect to normal > English--as in many of the Kipling poems. > > Cindy > > --- Amy Goldring Tajalli > <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Cindy, >> >> Do you mean dialect or a foreign language. I know >> dialect may be more >> difficult, especially when written, than Standard >> English but it is English >> mixed with what is often called slang or jargon. >> Huck Finn and the slave >> Jim spoke in a dialect. I have not read Forrest >> Gump but in the movie he >> was speaking English but with a slight southern >> accent. Now in Les Miserable >> there were songs that were not translated from the >> French and I still don't >> know what they meant but that was just carelessness >> on the part of the >> translator and editor but it was that or read an >> edtion which not only >> translated all of the French but rearranged and >> really edited the book, >> leaving me wondering what Hugo really wrote. >> >> The book has a number of chapters about the Argot >> used by the criminals in >> the book and while it was difficult to follow and >> even more difficult to >> remember there was a reason for it and in those >> chapters Hugo explains it. >> >> It is unfair to the reader to edit or "translate" >> the language of a book >> unless the reader knows you are doing it and it is >> clear that you are acting >> as an editor. See we supposedly just transcribe or >> scan and correct the >> scans I don;t feel we have the right to change the >> books unless you >> include a note after the original text with your >> translation and saying why >> you included it - not replace the original. >> >> What is Bookshare's agreement with the publishers >> and their rule if any >> about changing the text of the books we scan and >> validate. >> >> Sorry Cindy, I think you should just pass on books >> you feel the need to >> edit. >> >> Amy >> >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:48 AM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Dialect in books >> >> >> > >> > I hate dialect in books. I'm so glad that Shelley >> > posted that Forrest Gump had a lot of dialect so I >> > stayed away from it. I didn't mind the Welsh so >> much >> > in The Dark Is Rising sequence, because there >> wasn't >> > too much of it, but I chose not to do a Catherine >> > Cookson book because there was too much of it. >> When I >> > read a book with dialect I tend to mentally >> translate >> > it into normal English and ignore the dialect, but >> if >> > I had to listen to the book, I don't know if I >> could. >> > >> > In case there are other readers like me, and even >> more >> > so readers won't think there are mistakes, I put >> in >> > the long synopsis that there's dialect, and/or >> English >> > spelling and/or punctuation, and usually if >> there's >> > profanity or swearing. Unfortunately, I forgot to >> put >> > the latter in the long synopsis of The Man from >> > Nowhere/Bitter Grass. >> > >> > Cindy >> >> > Jill, it will not take much work to fix up my >> >> already >> >> > scanned rtf file. I will pick the book up >> tonight >> >> if >> >> > we go to town for the fish fry at the church or >> >> > tomorrow if we don't. We have kind of crappy >> >> weather >> >> > here. >> >> > >> >> > Then I can see where the first page number >> occurs >> >> and >> >> > just put in page numbers and do whatever it >> needs >> >> to >> >> > fix the chapter headings. >> >> > >> >> > I already fixed the space question mark problem >> >> and >> >> > one scanno that I found. >> >> > >> >> > This book it's so hard to tell what is a scanno >> >> > because of the dialect and language they use. >> >> > >> >> > I am finding the same thing with the book I >> have >> >> been >> >> > scanning this week, Thud!. A lot of their words >> >> are >> >> > hWhat and I kept thinking why is it doing that >> and >> >> > when I would check the page that is how it is >> >> written. >> >> > Or the last page I scanned last night had I >> >> belive. >> >> > And I thought what is up with my scanner and >> >> Omnipage? >> >> > And that's exactly what it says in the book. >> But >> >> if I >> >> > were a validator I would say oh that's wrong >> and >> >> want >> >> > to fix it. These are things I should put in the >> >> > comments section when I upload it, right? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Jamie in Michigan >> >> > >> >> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank >> Email >> >> to >> >> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the >> >> subject line. 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