[bksvol-discuss] Re: Footnote #s

  • From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:05:05 -0400

Braille rules say there should be some indication to the footnote, so 
actually seperating them out, or placing a * before them, is actually 
appropriate, see below, taken from Braille Formats and Layouts.

1. Notes with print reference marks. For the purposes of this Code section a 
print reference mark is defined as any superior number, letter, or character
printed in running text, a table, list, or illustration to indicate that 
there is a note to what is being discussed and to identify which note.
NOTE: In line-numbered texts, all notes that are identified by line numbers 
must be brailled according to
Rule 11, Sections 1d(3) and (4).

List of 4 items nesting level 1
A. Numbered or lettered reference marks.Superior numbers or letters are 
usually printed after the reference point after the reference point in the 
text
(word1orworda) and preceding the note itself (1note, 1. note, anote,ora. 
note).

(1) Each numbered reference mark must be represented in braille by the 
symbol dots 35,35 followed by the unspaced number indicator and a number.

(2) Each lettered reference mark must be represented in braille by the 
symbol dots 35, 35 followed by the unspaced letter indicator and a letter.

B. Superior reference marks.Superior reference marks are usually printed 
after the point of reference in the text (word*orword) and preceding the 
note itself
(*noteornote). The customary sequence of print reference marks is as 
follows: * asterisk, dagger, double dagger, § section sign, || parallels, ¶ 
paragraph
sign, ° hollow dot.

But as even this indicates there is no "real" way they are supposed to be 
presented.


Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 6:46 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Footnote #s


Actually, footnote numbers are usually raised and
smaller--and occasionally, if there haven't been too
many of them and some have shown up that way, I've
used Character Spacing in Font in the Format file to
do that. If there are a lot, though, I've just left
them as they scanned, usually, as Evan says, right
next to the end of the sentence. I haven't come across
any in the middle of sentences, at least without
punctuation. I think in that case that I would make
the number small and raised.

Cindy

--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Sorry, but that's too bad for ranked spelling.  I do
> not think it is a good
> idea to alter the way the book is printed to
> accommodate ranked spelling.
> Numbers for footnotes are printed right up against
> the text.  You should
> just ignore them when they come up in ranked
> spelling rather than making the
> footnote references a little less clear in order to
> keep them from coming up
> in ranked spelling.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:31 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Footnote #s
>
>
> > On the other hand, putting a space between
> punctuation and the number or
> > the word and the number means the number/word
> combination no longer shows
> > up as an error in k1000 rank spelling.
> >
> > E.
> > At 04:15 PM 9/25/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >>I have not looked it up so this is just 30 years
> experience and what I
> >>have learned from your questions, guesses, and
> answers but you cannot put
> >>the footnotes at the end of the line or sentence
> unless they refer to the
> >>whole line or sentence.  You should not leave a
> space because it is then
> >>unclear what that "lone, lorn" number is doing
> there.  Evan, the one
> >>Braille reader I know, says the number does not
> interfere with his  screen
> >>reader but even Evan is only one person.  Perhaps
> the question could be
> >>asked at least of all braille-reader users.  Until
> then I would leave the
> >>number without a space next to the word to which
> it applies. If sighted
> >>College freshman composition students can figure
> it out I would lay odds
> >>that blind high-school freshman who have had to
> compensate for works not
> >>consider by their sighted friends can do so a lot
> quicker.  All my blind
> >>friends did.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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