[bksvol-discuss] Re: Funky change in Roger's emails
- From: Jackie McBride <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:21:20 -0700
He's using AO hell (uh, I mean, AO l) email.
Roger, setting your options to plain text, as I suggested earlier,
will remedy this.
On 12/5/09, Chela Robles <cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> What client are you using? Perhaps my buddy who helped me can help you?
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> brings to my ears.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:09 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Funky change in Roger's emails
>
>
> I was unaware of that. Does anyone know how I can fix it?
>
>
> "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion
> in it." [ in a letter to Thomas Jefferson] John Adams
>
> The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press:
> http://www.pathfinderpress.com
> Granma International: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
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>
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> [bksvol-discuss] Funky change in Roger's emails
> Date:
> 12/5/2009 3:53:18 PM Eastern Standard Time
> From:
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> Hey Roger,You've got some funky html coding that's been going on for two
> or three days in your emails coming to the list. It makes the background
> black
> and the font black, except for your .sig file. So for what it's worth,
> they're unreadable by a sighted person like myself. The only way I can read
> them
> is to look at them is by resetting your messages into "text" messages.I'm
> using Thunderbird to read email, and I don't know if any of the other
> sighted
> volunteers are experiencing this with your emailsJudy
> s.Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote:> That may be the case for you, but for us who
> do not have access to
> nor the > skill to use an optacon it does not apply.> > > "This would be
> the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion > in it." [ in a
> letter
> to Thomas Jefferson] John Adams > > The Militant:
> http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press: >
> http://www.pathfinderpress.com> Granma
> International: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html> _>
>> table with 2 columns and 6 rows> Subj:> [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and
> Robert > Date:> 12/5/2009 2:47:53 AM Eastern Standard Time > From:>
> the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx > Reply-to:> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To:>
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent from the Internet > (Details)> table end> > Hi Roger!I have been
> thinking about this subject.In a way, I think that > scanning is easier,
> because,
> when I am doing step one of proofreading, I have > the> hard copy in front
> of me that I can check with the optacon when there is a > scano I am unsure
> of. When I am proofreading others submissions, I don't > have> the hard
> copy, so I can only figure out scanos that are obvious or some > from
> context,
> feeling a bit unsure at times.DebbyAt 10:55 PM 11/30/2009, >
> rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote>As a matter of fact, I think proofreading is
> easier than scanning.
> > Unless >you are submitting a raw scan it is proofreading with extra
> work. >> Nevertheless> Kim, I would urge you to take the plunge and try some
>>scanning
> too. The > more you learn about scannning the more you learn about >using
> a computer in > general.>>>> "I have no country to fight for; my country is
> the
> earth, and I am a >> citizen of the world." Eugene V. Debs>>
> The Militant: > <> http://wwww.themilitant.com>http://www.themilitant.com>
> Pathfinder
> Press: > <http://www.pathfinderpress.com>>
> http://www.pathfinderpress.com>Granma International:
>><http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html>>
> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html>
> > _>>table with 2 columns and 6 rows>Subj:>[bksvol-discuss]
> Re: > For Gwen and Robert>Date:>11/30/2009 10:37:56 PM Eastern Standard
> Time>From:>>
> kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>Reply-to:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:>>
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent> from the Internet>(Details)>table end>>My
> goodness
> Gwen, you have nothing > to fear when it comes to proofreading >should you
> decide to do it. One thing> I can tell you is that there are >many ways>to
> do
> it. I have a BrailleNote > mPower and I use it as a Braille display >while
> I read a book from the > beginning> to the end. I listen to my screen
> reader>read
> the text while I follow along > with my fingers using the BrailleNote.
>>I'd call it kind of like a feedback> or redundancy thing. Have you seen
> those>flour
> sifters with double or > triple screens in them? Think of what I do as >if
> I were sifting flour because > what> the ears hear the fingers check. I
> have>to
> make sure that everything is all > present and accounted for, title,
>>author bylines, copyright dates, ISbn > numbers,>publishers,> etc. After
> the prefatory
> material I read every word of the >book. Now I'm > taking in the story (if
> I'm reading fiction), I'm checking >to see if>there > are> any errors in the
> scan you might have missed. If I find any, I >use the > delete key so I
> only get rid of stuff that is extraneous to the text.>I'd write> you and let
> you
> know what I'm doing. If I come across a bit of >something > in the text
> I'm not sure about, I'd email you and ask you about it,>pasting > the> bit
> of text
> I'm having trouble with in the email to you. You'd >send me the > copy of
> what the text should be, and I make sure it's in the file>I'm > working>
> with.
> One thing I heard right from the start was to have a >copy of the > file
> that isn't touched in case I mess up the one I'm working with.>I'm still >
> in>
> the beginning stages of this thing. I don't do anything >fancy. Eventually
>> I expect to learn the art of this. What I want to know >is if the>text
> makes>
> sense. I don't heed the word processing program should it have >grammar >
> suggestions for me. If I come across a weird spelling of a word or
>>name,>I'd
> > want> to know how many times it's in the text. I'd probably write you
>>to verify > that the word and the way it's spelled is supposed to be in the
> text.>My
> > philosophy> is to do just enough and err on the side of caution. Some
>>people may not > use Braille at all when proofreading while others do. I'm
> still>learning
> the> ropes, but so far what I've done is in the Bookshare >collection so I
> must > be doing something right or at least I hope this is >so. Nobody
> will>twist
> > your> arm and you can proofread anything that interests you. So far
>>everything > has interested me. The very first thing I did was a children's
> book,>but
> the> others I've done are fiction books for grownups. Regards, Kim.>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------->>From:>
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gwen tweedy>Sent:
> Monday, November 30, 2009 2:56 PM>To:>
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and >
> Robert>>I too assumed that those books would go very fast simply from
> things
> I>> have read here from time to time.>I think they are getting lost in the
>> admin cue now that would be up to him >to correct me if I am wrong.>And
> yes
> for> me, if I were a proof reader, except for some of the books >he's
> helped me > with, I wouldn't read them either I just can't read those >kinds
> of>books.>>
> As> for my books, I've learned a lot, I feel that even as much as recently
>>I > have gotten better, but as for myself, I am keenly aware that my books
> might>> be> as fast on the uptake because of my past reputation as a new
> scanner.>So I > understand that, and can now deal with that.>If I find that
> I
> am not making> it I promise you, I'll be the first to >leave volunteering
> altogether, > because I do not need nor want to be in >the way of>good
> reading
> material here> bookshare is so famous for.>I promise you, I would not want
> anyone putting > up junk from me that would >not be fair to y'all.>Some
> things
> you can learn,> some things a person can't and if I fail to get >it, then
> I'm out of here > lock stock and barrel.>Most here scan and proof
> excellently,
> and I would no > more > tarnish >that reputation for this whole world.>It
> was my hope when I > first put my name up to be a volunteer to put up
>>more
> of the Christian type of> books, if not Christian wholesome >books those
> my>grandma would care to > read.>But that wholly has not happened, from a
> number
> of factors of my own >> making> the buck stops here as it were.>If I fail
> to meet this my personal goal, > that at that time, which could be >today,
> tomorrow,
> or perhaps never then I > would> bow out and leave it to those>who know
> best.>I wish I could proof books, > but I've bungled scans lord knows what
> I'd
> do >to a proof.>Plus there are so > many> rules to proofing my lands I
> couldn't keep up with >them all, that is to > hard for me simple mind
> LOL.>I most
> likely should have just stuck to reading> > it would have been a lot >less
> trouble for us all.>You have a wonderful > day,>Gwen>>block quote>-----
> Original
> Message ----->From:>Monica Willyard>To:>>
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:> Monday, November 30, 2009 3:26
> PM>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Gwen and
> > Robert>Gwen, you're right. Robert is an experienced and valuable member
> of our>> community. Robert, how many books do you have that are waiting to
> be
> >> approved? Are>they on step 1 or in the admin queue?>>Gwen, there are
> several > factors> in play regarding Robert's books. I don't >know if you're
> aware
> of all of > these, so I thought I'd share them. Some of them>can probably
> be addressed by> people on this list. Others can't.>>On the staff side,
> Carrie
> was on > vacation for a week before Thanksgiving. >Also, most of the staff
> had some time > off> last week for the holiday. I >have found>that she
> generally
> approves books > from volunteers within 24 to 48 hours of >their entry
> into the admin queue.> Carrie used to be a volunteer just like us,>and she
> remembers
> the > frustration of waiting and waiting for a book to be >approved. She
> has worked with > Robert> as a fellow volunteer as well and knows>of his
> skills
> and flexible > attitude.>> From here, it looks like the bottleneck right
> now is in getting books >> proofread. The number of books on step 1 is
> piling
> up again. Our number > > of active>volunteers and their preferences for
> reading determine how fast a > book> is >processed. This factor affects
> everyone
> who submits books. For awhile > everyone>was worried about not having any
> books to work on. Some people quit>> looking for new books on step 1 because
> of all of the books with holds on >> them. Now>there are a lot of
> excellent books needing a proofreader.>>The > other> factor, on a more
> personal level,
> is hard for me to explain. >Robert is a > consistent and dedicated
> volunteer. I respect him for his >dedication>and > teamwork.> Yet I am
> hesitant to take
> his books for a personal reason. >In the past, > Robert has been willing
> to scan some adult-rated content for >Bookshare.>It's> my perception that
> much
> of what he scans would be classified as >steamy > romances. I prefer not
> to read the steamier books. This isn't about >Robert>or> his skills as a
> submitter.
> It's about me and what I want to read. I >> generally don't like to draw
> attention to this issue since I think it's a >> personal> one>on my part.
> Since
> I feel uncomfortable asking Robert which books are >> adult, I let others
> take his books when he submits. I figured it would >make> him angry>if I
> asked
> about it. If I am wrong about what Robert submits, I > apologize >and take
> full responsibility for not checking out my assumptions > with> him.>>I
> think
> what I'm saying is that we might do a better job of > communicating >with
> each other. I know I need to do that. I didn't know that Robert's>> books
> weren't>getting
> added to the collection. I also assumed that most > people are more
>>comfortable with adult content than I am and that those would> be done
> quickly.>I
> could be wrong on both counts.>>The last thing I want is > for you or
> Robert to feel ignored or >unappreciated. I don't have an > immediate>
> solution.
> I think we could find >ways to work this>out together, with the > help of
> the Bookshare community. It would help us >fix the problem if we know>
> exactly
> what's going on, if the books are on step 1,>or are they getting > lost in
> the admin queue.>>Monica Willyard>"The best way to predict the future> is to
> create it." -- Peter Drucker>>>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------->At
> 10:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:>> block>
> quote>I think a timely manner is the key.>And those who have scanned for >
> years and their books are good, and >everyone knows they are good, to me
> there>
> shouldn't be a delay.>Some books get up there right away, so what is the >
> difference in books?> Especially those of like Robert's when his books
> have>
> been tried and > true for a long time.> Eventually volunteers are gonna
>> quit submitting books, because they > aren't getting anywhere. Some books
> > stay> up there for a long time.>It's grand for kids books grand for
> grants, but > I think they are >forgetting the submitters especially those
> hard
> working> ones like Bob >who turns in>a quality scan each and every time
> not like his > wife who turns no quality >scans LOL.>I understand me, but
> Bob that
> is > different.>His> should go right away.>Gwen>>----- Original Message
> ----->From:>robert > tweedy>To:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Monday,
> November
> 30, 2009 11:58 AM>> Subject:> [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main
> concern these days?>>That's fine as > long as our books get into the system
> on a timey
> matter.>----- Original > Message> ----->From:>Denise
> Thompson>To:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Tuesday, > December 01, 2009
> 2:50 PM>Subject: [bksvol-discuss]
> Re: What is the main > concern> these days?>>I think BKS's concern is to
> do books that fit their grant > money. >educational which seems to be most
> books
> for kids and teens in addition> to >text books,>of course. Adult books
> don't seem to be educational- > especially those that >have some romance in
> them.
> Since they have out-sourcers and> do their grant >books>with them as well
> as in house, I feel like I need to > continue to scan >adult books for the
> rest
> of us who aren't students and who> don't want to >read kids>books and teen
> books.>Denise>> At 09:32 AM > 11/30/2009, you wrote:>block quote>I've
> noticed
> a strong emphasis on children's > books> as well. This is >wonderful, so
> long as it isn't at the expense of books > for us adults,
> too.>>Melissa>>robert
> tweedy wrote:>block quote>I am just > wondering> about bookshare policy of
> submitted books. Taking a >look at the cue, it > looks like children's books
> which is okay but what >about books>that are just> for pleasure.>block
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