[bksvol-discuss] Re: Funky change in Roger's emails
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How do I do that? I have just looked through my menu and settings and I
can't find anything about that.
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion
in it." [ in a letter to Thomas Jefferson] John Adams
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He's using AO hell (uh, I mean, AO l) email.Roger, setting your options to
plain text, as I suggested earlier,will remedy this.On 12/5/09, Chela Robles
<cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> What client are you using? Perhaps my buddy
who helped me can help you?> ----------------> "If you go without playing
the
trumpet for one day, no one knows, two days,> only you know, and more than
three days without practicing, girl you better> look out, because everyone
will
know!"> Today, I find myself constantly saying those words, just to get
myself> going, to not give up, and it works. Since I learned to play the
trumpet
at> the tender age of 10, I have spent so much passion and much diligence
with> that instrument that I will not give up on it. Sometimes my instrument
puts> me into awkward situations where I feel like they won't ever end, but
the> trumpet gives me a lot of hope with the majestic, crystal-clear sound
it> brings to my ears.> ----------------> Chela Robles> E-Mail:
cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx> MSNWindowsLive Messenger: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Skype:
jazzytrumpet>>
----- Original Message -----> From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> To:
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:09 PM>
Subject:
[bksvol-discuss] Re: Funky change in Roger's emails>>> I was unaware of
that. Does anyone know how I can fix it?>>> "This would be the best of all
possible worlds, if there were no religion> in it." [ in a letter to Thomas
Jefferson] John Adams>> The Militant:
http://www.themilitant.com
Pathfinder Press:> http://www.pathfinderpress.com> Granma International:
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html> _>>> table with 2
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and 6 rows> Subj:> [bksvol-discuss] Funky change in Roger's emails>
Date:> 12/5/2009 3:53:18 PM Eastern Standard Time> From:>
cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-to:> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:>
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end>> Hey
Roger,You've
got some funky html coding that's been going on for two> or three days in
your emails coming to the list. It makes the background> black> and the
font
black, except for your .sig file. So for what it's worth,> they're
unreadable by a sighted person like myself. The only way I can read> them> is
to
look
at them is by resetting your messages into "text" messages.I'm> using
Thunderbird to read email, and I don't know if any of the other> sighted>
volunteers
are experiencing this with your emailsJudy> s.Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote:>
That may be the case for you, but for us who> do not have access to> nor
the > skill to use an optacon it does not apply.> > > "This would be> the
best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion > in it." [ in a>
letter>
to Thomas Jefferson] John Adams > > The Militant:>
http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press: >> http://www.pathfinderpress.com>
Granma> International: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html>
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Gwen and> Robert > Date:> 12/5/2009 2:47:53 AM Eastern Standard Time >
From:>> the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx > Reply-to:> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To:>>
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end> > Hi Roger!I have been> thinking about this subject.In a way, I think
that > scanning is easier,> because,> when I am doing step one of
proofreading, I have > the> hard copy in front> of me that I can check with the
optacon
when there is a > scano I am unsure> of. When I am proofreading others
submissions, I don't > have> the hard> copy, so I can only figure out scanos
that are obvious or some > from> context,> feeling a bit unsure at
times.DebbyAt 10:55 PM 11/30/2009, >> rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote>As a matter
of
fact, I think proofreading is> easier than scanning.> > Unless >you are
submitting a raw scan it is proofreading with extra> work. >> Nevertheless>
Kim,
I would urge you to take the plunge and try some>>scanning> too. The >
more you learn about scannning the more you learn about >using> a computer in
> general.>>>> "I have no country to fight for; my country is> the>
earth, and I am a >> citizen of the world." Eugene V. Debs>>> The Militant: > <>
http://wwww.themilitant.com>http://www.themilitant.com>> Pathfinder>
Press: > <http://www.pathfinderpress.com>>> http://www.pathfinderpress.com>
Granma
International:>><http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html>>>
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html>> > _>>table with 2
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Re: > For Gwen and Robert>Date:>11/30/2009 10:37:56 PM Eastern Standard>
Time>From:>>> kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>Reply-to:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:>>>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent> from the Internet>(Details)>table end>>
My> goodness> Gwen, you have nothing > to fear when it comes to
proofreading
>should you> decide to do it. One thing> I can tell you is that there are >
many ways>to> do> it. I have a BrailleNote > mPower and I use it as a
Braille
display >while> I read a book from the > beginning> to the end. I listen to
my screen> reader>read> the text while I follow along > with my fingers
using
the BrailleNote.>>I'd call it kind of like a feedback> or redundancy thing.
Have you seen> those>flour> sifters with double or > triple screens in
them?
Think of what I do as >if> I were sifting flour because > what> the ears
hear the fingers check. I> have>to> make sure that everything is all >
present
and accounted for, title,>>author bylines, copyright dates, ISbn > numbers,>
publishers,> etc. After> the prefatory> material I read every word of the
>book. Now I'm > taking in the story (if> I'm reading fiction), I'm
checking >to see if>there > are> any errors in the> scan you might have
missed.
If
I find any, I >use the > delete key so I> only get rid of stuff that is
extraneous to the text.>I'd write> you and let> you> know what I'm doing. If
I come across a bit of >something > in the text> I'm not sure about, I'd
email you and ask you about it,>pasting > the> bit> of text> I'm having
trouble
with in the email to you. You'd >send me the > copy of> what the text
should be, and I make sure it's in the file>I'm > working>> with.> One thing I
heard right from the start was to have a >copy of the > file> that isn't
touched in case I mess up the one I'm working with.>I'm still >> in>> the
beginning
stages of this thing. I don't do anything >fancy. Eventually>> I expect to
learn the art of this. What I want to know >is if the>text> makes>> sense.
I don't heed the word processing program should it have >grammar >>
suggestions for me. If I come across a weird spelling of a word
or>>name,>I'd> >
want> to know how many times it's in the text. I'd probably write you>>to
verify > that the word and the way it's spelled is supposed to be in the>
text.>My>
> philosophy> is to do just enough and err on the side of caution. Some>>
people may not > use Braille at all when proofreading while others do. I'm>
still>learning>
the> ropes, but so far what I've done is in the Bookshare >collection so I>
must > be doing something right or at least I hope this is >so. Nobody>
will>twist>
> your> arm and you can proofread anything that interests you. So far>>
everything > has interested me. The very first thing I did was a children's>
book,>but>
the> others I've done are fiction books for grownups. Regards, Kim.>>>
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>From:>>
bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gwen tweedy>Sent:>
Monday, November 30, 2009 2:56 PM>
To:>>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and >>
Robert>>I too assumed that those books would go very fast simply from>
things>
I>> have read here from time to time.>I think they are getting lost in the>>
admin cue now that would be up to him >to correct me if I am wrong.>And>
yes>
for> me, if I were a proof reader, except for some of the books >he's>
helped me > with, I wouldn't read them either I just can't read those >kinds>
of>
books.>>>
As> for my books, I've learned a lot, I feel that even as much as recently>>
I > have gotten better, but as for myself, I am keenly aware that my books>
might>> be> as fast on the uptake because of my past reputation as a new>
scanner.>So I > understand that, and can now deal with that.>If I find that>
I> am not making> it I promise you, I'll be the first to >leave
volunteering> altogether, > because I do not need nor want to be in >the way
of>good>
reading> material here> bookshare is so famous for.>I promise you, I
would not want> anyone putting > up junk from me that would >not be fair to
y'all.>Some>
things> you can learn,> some things a person can't and if I fail to get >
it, then> I'm out of here > lock stock and barrel.>Most here scan and proof>
excellently,> and I would no > more > tarnish >that reputation for this
whole world.>It> was my hope when I > first put my name up to be a
volunteer
to put up>>more> of the Christian type of> books, if not Christian
wholesome >books those> my>grandma would care to > read.>But that wholly has
not
happened, from a> number> of factors of my own >> making> the buck stops
here as it were.>If I fail> to meet this my personal goal, > that at that
time,
which could be >today,> tomorrow,> or perhaps never then I > would> bow
out and leave it to those>who know> best.>I wish I could proof books, > but
I've
bungled scans lord knows what> I'd> do >to a proof.>Plus there are so >
many> rules to proofing my lands I> couldn't keep up with >them all, that is
to > hard for me simple mind> LOL.>I most> likely should have just stuck
to reading> > it would have been a lot >less> trouble for us all.>You have
a wonderful > day,>Gwen>>block quote>-----> Original> Message ----->From:>
Monica Willyard>To:>>> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:> Monday, November
30, 2009 3:26> PM>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Gwen and> > Robert>Gwen,
you're right. Robert is an experienced and valuable member> of our>>
community.
Robert, how many books do you have that are waiting to> be> >> approved?
Are>they on step 1 or in the admin queue?>>Gwen, there are> several >
factors>
in play regarding Robert's books. I don't >know if you're> aware> of all
of > these, so I thought I'd share them. Some of them>can probably> be
addressed
by> people on this list. Others can't.>>On the staff side,> Carrie> was
on > vacation for a week before Thanksgiving. >Also, most of the staff> had
some
time > off> last week for the holiday. I >have found>that she> generally>
approves books > from volunteers within 24 to 48 hours of >their entry>
into
the admin queue.> Carrie used to be a volunteer just like us,>and she>
remembers> the > frustration of waiting and waiting for a book to be >
approved.
She> has worked with > Robert> as a fellow volunteer as well and knows>of
his> skills> and flexible > attitude.>> From here, it looks like the
bottleneck
right> now is in getting books >> proofread. The number of books on step 1
is> piling> up again. Our number > > of active>volunteers and their
preferences
for> reading determine how fast a > book> is >processed. This factor
affects> everyone> who submits books. For awhile > everyone>was worried about
not
having any> books to work on. Some people quit>> looking for new books on
step 1 because> of all of the books with holds on >> them. Now>there are a
lot of> excellent books needing a proofreader.>>The > other> factor, on a
more> personal level,> is hard for me to explain. >Robert is a > consistent
and dedicated> volunteer. I respect him for his >dedication>and > teamwork.>
Yet I am> hesitant to take> his books for a personal reason. >In the
past,
> Robert has been willing> to scan some adult-rated content for >Bookshare.>
It's> my perception that> much> of what he scans would be classified as >
steamy
> romances. I prefer not> to read the steamier books. This isn't about >
Robert>or> his skills as a> submitter.> It's about me and what I want to
read.
I >> generally don't like to draw> attention to this issue since I think
it's a >> personal> one>on my part.> Since> I feel uncomfortable asking
Robert
which books are >> adult, I let others> take his books when he submits. I
figured it would >make> him angry>if I> asked> about it. If I am wrong
about
what Robert submits, I > apologize >and take> full responsibility for not
checking out my assumptions > with> him.>>I> think> what I'm saying is that
we might do a better job of > communicating >with> each other. I know I
need to do that. I didn't know that Robert's>> books> weren't>getting> added
to the collection. I also assumed that most > people are more>>comfortable
with adult content than I am and that those would> be done> quickly.>I>
could
be wrong on both counts.>>The last thing I want is > for you or> Robert to
feel ignored or >unappreciated. I don't have an > immediate>> solution.> I
think we could find >ways to work this>out together, with the > help of>
the Bookshare community. It would help us >fix the problem if we know>>
exactly>
what's going on, if the books are on step 1,>or are they getting > lost in>
the admin queue.>>Monica Willyard>"The best way to predict the future> is
to>
create it." -- Peter Drucker>>>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------->At>
10:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:>>
block>> quote>I think a timely manner is the key.>And those who have
scanned for >> years and their books are good, and >everyone knows they are
good,
to me> there>> shouldn't be a delay.>Some books get up there right away,
so what is the >> difference in books?> Especially those of like Robert's
when his books> have>> been tried and > true for a long time.>
Eventually volunteers are gonna>> quit submitting books, because they >
aren't
getting
anywhere. Some books> > stay> up there for a long time.>It's grand for
kids books grand for> grants, but > I think they are >forgetting the
submitters
especially those> hard> working> ones like Bob >who turns in>a quality
scan each and every time> not like his > wife who turns no quality >scans LOL.>
I
understand me, but> Bob that> is > different.>His> should go right away.>
Gwen>>----- Original Message> ----->From:>robert > tweedy>To:>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Monday,> November> 30, 2009 11:58 AM>> Subject:> [bksvol-discuss] Re:
What is the main> concern these days?>>That's fine as > long as our books get
into
the system> on a timey> matter.>----- Original > Message> ----->From:>
Denise> Thompson>To:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Tuesday, > December 01,
2009> 2:50 PM>Subject: [bksvol-discuss]> Re: What is the main > concern>
these days?>>I think BKS's concern is to> do books that fit their grant >
money.
>educational which seems to be most> books> for kids and teens in
addition> to >text books,>of course. Adult books> don't seem to be educational-
>
especially
those that >have some romance in> them.> Since they have out-sourcers and>
do their grant >books>with them as well> as in house, I feel like I need
to
> continue to scan >adult books for the> rest> of us who aren't students
and who> don't want to >read kids>books and teen> books.>Denise>> At 09:32
AM > 11/30/2009, you wrote:>block quote>I've> noticed> a strong emphasis
on children's > books> as well. This is >wonderful, so> long as it isn't at
the expense of books > for us adults,> too.>>Melissa>>robert> tweedy
wrote:>block quote>I am just > wondering> about bookshare policy of> submitted
books.
Taking a >look at the cue, it > looks like children's books> which is
okay but what >about books>that are just> for pleasure.>block> quote end>To
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