What client are you using? Perhaps my buddy who helped me can help you?
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"If you go without playing the trumpet for one day, no one knows, two
days,
only you know, and more than three days without practicing, girl you
better
look out, because everyone will know!"
Today, I find myself constantly saying those words, just to get myself
going, to not give up, and it works. Since I learned to play the trumpet
at
the tender age of 10, I have spent so much passion and much diligence
with
that instrument that I will not give up on it. Sometimes my instrument
puts
me into awkward situations where I feel like they won't ever end, but the
trumpet gives me a lot of hope with the majestic, crystal-clear sound it
brings to my ears.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Funky change in Roger's emails
I was unaware of that. Does anyone know how I can fix it?
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no
religion
in it." [ in a letter to Thomas Jefferson] John Adams
The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press:
http://www.pathfinderpress.com
Granma International: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
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Date:
12/5/2009 3:53:18 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:
cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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To:
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Hey Roger,You've got some funky html coding that's been going on for
two
or three days in your emails coming to the list. It makes the background
black
and the font black, except for your .sig file. So for what it's worth,
they're unreadable by a sighted person like myself. The only way I can
read
them
is to look at them is by resetting your messages into "text"
messages.I'm
using Thunderbird to read email, and I don't know if any of the other
sighted
volunteers are experiencing this with your emailsJudy
s.Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote:> That may be the case for you, but for us
who
do not have access to
nor the > skill to use an optacon it does not apply.> > > "This would
be
the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion > in it." [ in
a
letter
to Thomas Jefferson] John Adams > > The Militant:
http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press: >
http://www.pathfinderpress.com> Granma
International: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html>
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table with 2 columns and 6 rows> Subj:> [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen
and
Robert > Date:> 12/5/2009 2:47:53 AM Eastern Standard Time > From:>
the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx > Reply-to:> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To:>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent from the Internet > (Details)> table end> > Hi Roger!I have been
thinking about this subject.In a way, I think that > scanning is easier,
because,
when I am doing step one of proofreading, I have > the> hard copy in
front
of me that I can check with the optacon when there is a > scano I am
unsure
of. When I am proofreading others submissions, I don't > have> the
hard
copy, so I can only figure out scanos that are obvious or some > from
context,
feeling a bit unsure at times.DebbyAt 10:55 PM 11/30/2009, >
rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote>As a matter of fact, I think proofreading is
easier than scanning.
> Unless >you are submitting a raw scan it is proofreading with extra
work. >> Nevertheless> Kim, I would urge you to take the plunge and try
some
scanning
too. The > more you learn about scannning the more you learn about
>using
a computer in > general.>>>> "I have no country to fight for; my country
is
the
earth, and I am a >> citizen of the world." Eugene V. Debs>>
The Militant: > <>
http://wwww.themilitant.com>http://www.themilitant.com>
Pathfinder
Press: > <http://www.pathfinderpress.com>>
http://www.pathfinderpress.com>Granma International:
<http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html>>
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html>
> _>>table with 2 columns and 6 rows>Subj:>[bksvol-discuss]
Re: > For Gwen and Robert>Date:>11/30/2009 10:37:56 PM Eastern Standard
Time>From:>>
kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>Reply-to:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:>>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent> from the Internet>(Details)>table
end>>My
goodness
Gwen, you have nothing > to fear when it comes to proofreading >should
you
decide to do it. One thing> I can tell you is that there are >many
ways>to
do
it. I have a BrailleNote > mPower and I use it as a Braille display
>while
I read a book from the > beginning> to the end. I listen to my screen
reader>read
the text while I follow along > with my fingers using the BrailleNote.
I'd call it kind of like a feedback> or redundancy thing. Have you seen
those>flour
sifters with double or > triple screens in them? Think of what I do as
>if
I were sifting flour because > what> the ears hear the fingers check. I
have>to
make sure that everything is all > present and accounted for, title,
author bylines, copyright dates, ISbn > numbers,>publishers,> etc. After
the prefatory
material I read every word of the >book. Now I'm > taking in the story
(if
I'm reading fiction), I'm checking >to see if>there > are> any errors in
the
scan you might have missed. If I find any, I >use the > delete key so I
only get rid of stuff that is extraneous to the text.>I'd write> you and
let
you
know what I'm doing. If I come across a bit of >something > in the text
I'm not sure about, I'd email you and ask you about it,>pasting > the>
bit
of text
I'm having trouble with in the email to you. You'd >send me the > copy
of
what the text should be, and I make sure it's in the file>I'm > working>
with.
One thing I heard right from the start was to have a >copy of the >
file
that isn't touched in case I mess up the one I'm working with.>I'm still
>
in>
the beginning stages of this thing. I don't do anything >fancy.
Eventually
I expect to learn the art of this. What I want to know >is if the>text
makes>
sense. I don't heed the word processing program should it have >grammar
>
suggestions for me. If I come across a weird spelling of a word or
name,>I'd
> want> to know how many times it's in the text. I'd probably write you
to verify > that the word and the way it's spelled is supposed to be in
the
text.>My
> philosophy> is to do just enough and err on the side of caution. Some
people may not > use Braille at all when proofreading while others do.
I'm
still>learning
the> ropes, but so far what I've done is in the Bookshare >collection
so I
must > be doing something right or at least I hope this is >so. Nobody
will>twist
> your> arm and you can proofread anything that interests you. So far
everything > has interested me. The very first thing I did was a
children's
book,>but
the> others I've done are fiction books for grownups. Regards, Kim.>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------->>From:>
bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gwen
tweedy>Sent:
Monday, November 30, 2009 2:56 PM>To:>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and
>
Robert>>I too assumed that those books would go very fast simply from
things
I>> have read here from time to time.>I think they are getting lost in
the
admin cue now that would be up to him >to correct me if I am wrong.>And
yes
for> me, if I were a proof reader, except for some of the books >he's
helped me > with, I wouldn't read them either I just can't read those
>kinds
of>books.>>
As> for my books, I've learned a lot, I feel that even as much as
recently
I > have gotten better, but as for myself, I am keenly aware that my
books
might>> be> as fast on the uptake because of my past reputation as a
new
scanner.>So I > understand that, and can now deal with that.>If I find
that
I
am not making> it I promise you, I'll be the first to >leave
volunteering
altogether, > because I do not need nor want to be in >the way of>good
reading
material here> bookshare is so famous for.>I promise you, I would not
want
anyone putting > up junk from me that would >not be fair to y'all.>Some
things
you can learn,> some things a person can't and if I fail to get >it,
then
I'm out of here > lock stock and barrel.>Most here scan and proof
excellently,
and I would no > more > tarnish >that reputation for this whole
world.>It
was my hope when I > first put my name up to be a volunteer to put up
more
of the Christian type of> books, if not Christian wholesome >books
those
my>grandma would care to > read.>But that wholly has not happened, from
a
number
of factors of my own >> making> the buck stops here as it were.>If I
fail
to meet this my personal goal, > that at that time, which could be
>today,
tomorrow,
or perhaps never then I > would> bow out and leave it to those>who know
best.>I wish I could proof books, > but I've bungled scans lord knows
what
I'd
do >to a proof.>Plus there are so > many> rules to proofing my lands I
couldn't keep up with >them all, that is to > hard for me simple mind
LOL.>I most
likely should have just stuck to reading> > it would have been a lot
>less
trouble for us all.>You have a wonderful > day,>Gwen>>block quote>-----
Original
Message ----->From:>Monica Willyard>To:>>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:> Monday, November 30, 2009 3:26
PM>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Gwen and
> Robert>Gwen, you're right. Robert is an experienced and valuable
member
of our>> community. Robert, how many books do you have that are waiting
to
be
>> approved? Are>they on step 1 or in the admin queue?>>Gwen, there are
several > factors> in play regarding Robert's books. I don't >know if
you're
aware
of all of > these, so I thought I'd share them. Some of them>can
probably
be addressed by> people on this list. Others can't.>>On the staff side,
Carrie
was on > vacation for a week before Thanksgiving. >Also, most of the
staff
had some time > off> last week for the holiday. I >have found>that she
generally
approves books > from volunteers within 24 to 48 hours of >their entry
into the admin queue.> Carrie used to be a volunteer just like us,>and
she
remembers
the > frustration of waiting and waiting for a book to be >approved.
She
has worked with > Robert> as a fellow volunteer as well and knows>of his
skills
and flexible > attitude.>> From here, it looks like the bottleneck
right
now is in getting books >> proofread. The number of books on step 1 is
piling
up again. Our number > > of active>volunteers and their preferences for
reading determine how fast a > book> is >processed. This factor affects
everyone
who submits books. For awhile > everyone>was worried about not having
any
books to work on. Some people quit>> looking for new books on step 1
because
of all of the books with holds on >> them. Now>there are a lot of
excellent books needing a proofreader.>>The > other> factor, on a more
personal level,
is hard for me to explain. >Robert is a > consistent and dedicated
volunteer. I respect him for his >dedication>and > teamwork.> Yet I am
hesitant to take
his books for a personal reason. >In the past, > Robert has been
willing
to scan some adult-rated content for >Bookshare.>It's> my perception that
much
of what he scans would be classified as >steamy > romances. I prefer
not
to read the steamier books. This isn't about >Robert>or> his skills as a
submitter.
It's about me and what I want to read. I >> generally don't like to
draw
attention to this issue since I think it's a >> personal> one>on my part.
Since
I feel uncomfortable asking Robert which books are >> adult, I let
others
take his books when he submits. I figured it would >make> him angry>if I
asked
about it. If I am wrong about what Robert submits, I > apologize >and
take
full responsibility for not checking out my assumptions > with> him.>>I
think
what I'm saying is that we might do a better job of > communicating
>with
each other. I know I need to do that. I didn't know that Robert's>> books
weren't>getting
added to the collection. I also assumed that most > people are more
comfortable with adult content than I am and that those would> be done
quickly.>I
could be wrong on both counts.>>The last thing I want is > for you or
Robert to feel ignored or >unappreciated. I don't have an > immediate>
solution.
I think we could find >ways to work this>out together, with the > help
of
the Bookshare community. It would help us >fix the problem if we know>
exactly
what's going on, if the books are on step 1,>or are they getting > lost
in
the admin queue.>>Monica Willyard>"The best way to predict the future> is
to
create it." -- Peter Drucker>>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------->At
10:32 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:>> block>
quote>I think a timely manner is the key.>And those who have scanned
for >
years and their books are good, and >everyone knows they are good, to me
there>
shouldn't be a delay.>Some books get up there right away, so what is
the >
difference in books?> Especially those of like Robert's when his books
have>
been tried and > true for a long time.> Eventually volunteers are
gonna
quit submitting books, because they > aren't getting anywhere. Some
books
> stay> up there for a long time.>It's grand for kids books grand for
grants, but > I think they are >forgetting the submitters especially
those
hard
working> ones like Bob >who turns in>a quality scan each and every time
not like his > wife who turns no quality >scans LOL.>I understand me, but
Bob that
is > different.>His> should go right away.>Gwen>>----- Original Message
----->From:>robert > tweedy>To:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:
Monday,
November
30, 2009 11:58 AM>> Subject:> [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is the main
concern these days?>>That's fine as > long as our books get into the
system
on a timey
matter.>----- Original > Message> ----->From:>Denise
Thompson>To:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Tuesday, > December 01,
2009
2:50 PM>Subject: [bksvol-discuss]
Re: What is the main > concern> these days?>>I think BKS's concern is
to
do books that fit their grant > money. >educational which seems to be
most
books
for kids and teens in addition> to >text books,>of course. Adult books
don't seem to be educational- > especially those that >have some romance
in
them.
Since they have out-sourcers and> do their grant >books>with them as
well
as in house, I feel like I need to > continue to scan >adult books for
the
rest
of us who aren't students and who> don't want to >read kids>books and
teen
books.>Denise>> At 09:32 AM > 11/30/2009, you wrote:>block quote>I've
noticed
a strong emphasis on children's > books> as well. This is >wonderful,
so
long as it isn't at the expense of books > for us adults,
too.>>Melissa>>robert
tweedy wrote:>block quote>I am just > wondering> about bookshare policy
of
submitted books. Taking a >look at the cue, it > looks like children's
books
which is okay but what >about books>that are just> for pleasure.>block
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