[bksvol-discuss] Re: Funky change in Roger's emails
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AOL 8.0. And by the way, the time period Judy mentioned for this change in
my emails about coincided with the last time I changed the quote in my
signature, so I just now fiddled around with that again. Did that help?
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion
in it." [ in a letter to Thomas Jefferson] John Adams
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What client are you using? Perhaps my buddy who helped me can help
you?----------------“If you go without playing the trumpet for one day, no one
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Since I learned to play the trumpet at the tender age of 10, I have spent
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majestic, crystal-clear sound it brings to my ears.----------------Chela
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Funky change in Roger's emailsI was unaware of that. Does anyone know how I can
fix
it?"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no
religion in it." [ in a letter to Thomas Jefferson] John Adams
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change in Roger's emails Date:12/5/2009 3:53:18 PM Eastern Standard
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iscuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent
from the Internet (Details)table endHey Roger,You've got some funky html
coding that's been going on for two or three days in your emails coming to the
list. It makes the background blackand the font black, except for your .sig
file. So for what it's worth, they're unreadable by a sighted person like
myself.
The only way I can read themis to look at them is by resetting your
messages into "text" messages.I'm using Thunderbird to read email, and I don't
know
if any of the other sightedvolunteers are experiencing this with your
emailsJudy s.Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote:> That may be the case for you, but for
us who do not have access tonor the > skill to use an optacon it does not
apply.> > > "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no
religion > in it." [ in a letterto Thomas Jefferson] John Adams > >
The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press: >
http://www.pathfinderpress.com>
GranmaInternational: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html>
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Gwen
andRobert > Date:> 12/5/2009 2:47:53 AM Eastern Standard Time > From:>
the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx > Reply-to:> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To:>
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Sent from the Internet > (Details)> table end> > Hi Roger!I have been
thinking about this subject.In a way, I think that > scanning is easier,
because,when
I am doing step one of proofreading, I have > the> hard copy in front of me
that I can check with the optacon when there is a > scano I am unsureof.
When
I am proofreading others submissions, I don't > have> the hard copy, so I
can only figure out scanos that are obvious or some > from context,feeling a
bit unsure at times.DebbyAt 10:55 PM 11/30/2009, > rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
wrote>As a matter of fact, I think proofreading is easier than scanning.>
Unless
>you are submitting a raw scan it is proofreading with extra work. >>
Nevertheless> Kim, I would urge you to take the plunge and try some
>scanningtoo.
The > more you learn about scannning the more you learn about >using a
computer in > general.>>>> "I have no country to fight for; my country is
theearth,
and I am a >> citizen of the world." Eugene V. Debs>> The
Militant: > <> http://wwww.themilitant.com>http://www.themilitant.com>
PathfinderPress:
> <http://www.pathfinderpress.com>> http://www.pathfinderpress.com>Granma
International: ><http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html>>
http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html>>
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For Gwen and Robert>Date:>11/30/2009 10:37:56 PM Eastern Standard Time>From:>
>kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>Reply-to:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To:>>
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My goodnessGwen, you have nothing > to fear when it comes to proofreading >
should
you decide to do it. One thing> I can tell you is that there are >many ways>
to doit. I have a BrailleNote > mPower and I use it as a Braille display >
while
I read a book from the > beginning> to the end. I listen to my screen
reader>readthe text while I follow along > with my fingers using the
BrailleNote.
>I'd call it kind of like a feedback> or redundancy thing. Have you seen
those>floursifters with double or > triple screens in them? Think of what I do
as >if I were sifting flour because > what> the ears hear the fingers
check. I have>tomake sure that everything is all > present and accounted for,
title,
>author bylines, copyright dates, ISbn > numbers,>publishers,> etc. After
the prefatorymaterial I read every word of the >book. Now I'm > taking in the
story (if I'm reading fiction), I'm checking >to see if>there > are> any
errors in thescan you might have missed. If I find any, I >use the > delete
key
so I only get rid of stuff that is extraneous to the text.>I'd write> you
and let youknow what I'm doing. If I come across a bit of >something > in the
text I'm not sure about, I'd email you and ask you about it,>pasting > the>
bit of textI'm having trouble with in the email to you. You'd >send me the
> copy of what the text should be, and I make sure it's in the file>I'm >
working> with.One thing I heard right from the start was to have a >copy of
the
> file that isn't touched in case I mess up the one I'm working with.>I'm
still > in>the beginning stages of this thing. I don't do anything >fancy.
Eventually
> I expect to learn the art of this. What I want to know >is if the>text
makes>sense. I don't heed the word processing program should it have >grammar
> suggestions for me. If I come across a weird spelling of a word or >name,>
I'd> want> to know how many times it's in the text. I'd probably write you
>to verify > that the word and the way it's spelled is supposed to be in
the text.>My> philosophy> is to do just enough and err on the side of caution.
Some >people may not > use Braille at all when proofreading while others
do. I'm still>learningthe> ropes, but so far what I've done is in the
Bookshare
>collection so I must > be doing something right or at least I hope this is
>so. Nobody will>twist> your> arm and you can proofread anything that
interests
you. So far >everything > has interested me. The very first thing I did was
a children's book,>butthe> others I've done are fiction books for grownups.
Regards, Kim.>>
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On Behalf Of gwen tweedy>Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:56 PM>To:>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: For Gwen and >
Robert>>
I
too assumed that those books would go very fast simply from thingsI>> have
read here from time to time.>I think they are getting lost in the > admin
cue
now that would be up to him >to correct me if I am wrong.>And yesfor> me,
if I were a proof reader, except for some of the books >he's helped me >
with,
I wouldn't read them either I just can't read those >kinds of>books.>>As>
for my books, I've learned a lot, I feel that even as much as recently >I >
have
gotten better, but as for myself, I am keenly aware that my booksmight>> be>
as fast on the uptake because of my past reputation as a new scanner.>So I
> understand that, and can now deal with that.>If I find that Iam not
making> it I promise you, I'll be the first to >leave volunteering altogether, >
because I do not need nor want to be in >the way of>good readingmaterial
here> bookshare is so famous for.>I promise you, I would not want anyone
putting
> up junk from me that would >not be fair to y'all.>Some thingsyou can
learn,> some things a person can't and if I fail to get >it, then I'm out of
here
> lock stock and barrel.>Most here scan and proof excellently,and I would
no > more > tarnish >that reputation for this whole world.>It was my hope
when
I > first put my name up to be a volunteer to put up >moreof the
Christian type of> books, if not Christian wholesome >books those my>grandma
would
care to > read.>But that wholly has not happened, from a numberof factors
of my own >> making> the buck stops here as it were.>If I fail to meet this
my personal goal, > that at that time, which could be >today, tomorrow,or
perhaps never then I > would> bow out and leave it to those>who know best.>I
wish I could proof books, > but I've bungled scans lord knows what I'ddo >
to a proof.>Plus there are so > many> rules to proofing my lands I couldn't
keep
up with >them all, that is to > hard for me simple mind LOL.>I mostlikely
should have just stuck to reading> > it would have been a lot >less trouble
for us all.>You have a wonderful > day,>Gwen>>block quote>-----
OriginalMessage ----->From:>Monica Willyard>To:>>
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent:>
Monday,
November 30, 2009 3:26 PM>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] For Gwen and> Robert>
Gwen, you're right. Robert is an experienced and valuable member of our>>
community.
Robert, how many books do you have that are waiting to be>> approved? Are>
they on step 1 or in the admin queue?>>Gwen, there are several > factors> in
play regarding Robert's books. I don't >know if you're awareof all of >
these, so I thought I'd share them. Some of them>can probably be addressed by>
people on this list. Others can't.>>On the staff side, Carriewas on >
vacation for a week before Thanksgiving. >Also, most of the staff had some time
>
off> last week for the holiday. I >have found>that she generallyapproves
books > from volunteers within 24 to 48 hours of >their entry into the admin
queue.>
Carrie used to be a volunteer just like us,>and she remembersthe >
frustration of waiting and waiting for a book to be >approved. She has worked
with >
Robert> as a fellow volunteer as well and knows>of his skillsand flexible >
attitude.>> From here, it looks like the bottleneck right now is in getting
books >> proofread. The number of books on step 1 is pilingup again. Our
number > > of active>volunteers and their preferences for reading determine
how
fast a > book> is >processed. This factor affects everyonewho submits
books. For awhile > everyone>was worried about not having any books to work on.
Some
people quit>> looking for new books on step 1 becauseof all of the books
with holds on >> them. Now>there are a lot of excellent books needing a
proofreader.>>The
> other> factor, on a more personal level,is hard for me to explain. >
Robert is a > consistent and dedicated volunteer. I respect him for his >
dedication>and
> teamwork.> Yet I am hesitant to takehis books for a personal reason. >In
the past, > Robert has been willing to scan some adult-rated content for >
Bookshare.>It's>
my perception that muchof what he scans would be classified as >steamy >
romances. I prefer not to read the steamier books. This isn't about >Robert>or>
his skills as a submitter.It's about me and what I want to read. I >>
generally don't like to draw attention to this issue since I think it's a >>
personal>
one>on my part. SinceI feel uncomfortable asking Robert which books are >>
adult, I let others take his books when he submits. I figured it would >make>
him angry>if I askedabout it. If I am wrong about what Robert submits, I >
apologize >and take full responsibility for not checking out my assumptions
> with> him.>>I thinkwhat I'm saying is that we might do a better job of >
communicating >with each other. I know I need to do that. I didn't know that
Robert's>> books weren't>gettingadded to the collection. I also assumed
that most > people are more >comfortable with adult content than I am and that
those would> be done quickly.>Icould be wrong on both counts.>>The last
thing I want is > for you or Robert to feel ignored or >unappreciated. I don't
have an > immediate> solution.I think we could find >ways to work this>out
together, with the > help of the Bookshare community. It would help us >fix
the problem if we know> exactlywhat's going on, if the books are on step 1,>
or are they getting > lost in the admin queue.>>Monica Willyard>"The best
way
to predict the future> is tocreate it." -- Peter Drucker>>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------->At
10:32 AM
11/30/2009, you wrote:>> block>quote>I think a timely manner is the key.>
And those who have scanned for > years and their books are good, and >everyone
knows they are good, to me there>shouldn't be a delay.>Some books get up
there right away, so what is the > difference in books?> Especially those of
like Robert's when his books have>been tried and > true for a long time.>
Eventually volunteers are gonna > quit submitting books, because they >
aren't
getting anywhere. Some books> stay> up there for a long time.>It's grand
for kids books grand for grants, but > I think they are >forgetting the
submitters
especially those hardworking> ones like Bob >who turns in>a quality scan
each and every time not like his > wife who turns no quality >scans LOL.>I
understand
me, but Bob thatis > different.>His> should go right away.>Gwen>>-----
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Sent:
Monday, November30, 2009 11:58 AM>> Subject:> [bksvol-discuss] Re: What is
the main concern these days?>>That's fine as > long as our books get into
the
system on a timeymatter.>----- Original > Message> ----->From:>Denise
Thompson>To:>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Tuesday, > December 01, 2009
2:50
PM>Subject: [bksvol-discuss]Re: What is the main > concern> these days?>>I
think BKS's concern is to do books that fit their grant > money. >
educational
which seems to be most booksfor kids and teens in addition> to >text books,>
of course. Adult books don't seem to be educational- > especially those
that
>have some romance in them.Since they have out-sourcers and> do their grant
>books>with them as well as in house, I feel like I need to > continue to
scan
>adult books for the restof us who aren't students and who> don't want to >
read kids>books and teen books.>Denise>> At 09:32 AM > 11/30/2009, you
wrote:>block
quote>I've noticeda strong emphasis on children's > books> as well. This is
>wonderful, so long as it isn't at the expense of books > for us adults,
too.>>Melissa>>roberttweedy
wrote:>block quote>I am just > wondering> about bookshare policy of
submitted books. Taking a >look at the cue, it > looks like children's
bookswhich
is
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