[bksvol-discuss] Re: Header question

  • From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:43:46 -0500

Charlene,

One of the topics covered in the validation instructions is normalizing of
running headers and footers.  It is usually easier to strip them, though,
than normalize, so I asked Marissa right after becoming  a volunteer if
Bookshare had a problem with stripping them by hand since the Stripper would
strip them if they are normalized and was told no, to go for it since that
typically produces better results, but to leave the page numbers.  According
to the validation instructions, the stripper replaces the page numbers with
pagination code to allow DAISY books to be navigated by page.  I suspect
that this is the reason why Bookshare does not drop the Stripper from the
release process and why it may be some time before members have the choice
of whether or not to strip after downloading a book.

So far, I have only worked on books which have the title and the author's
name in the running headers, so there was no value in having them on every
page and, therefore, no value in normalizing them.  In the case you were
talking about with the cookbook, however, as well as the case of running
headers in text books, I would suggest trying to protect them the same way
you would a chapter heading.  I believe Carrie said that she and Gustavo
placed a copy of the chapter heading above each original chapter heading
with a blank line in between when they worked on the recent Harry Potter
book.  I've also always had good results with placing the page number above
the chapter heading.  With these two things in mind, I'd suggest either
placing a duplicate of the running header above each header or simply the
page number above each header if the page numbers are included in the
headers.  Don't forget to leave the blank line in between them, though,
because some volunteers have said that omitting a blank line from between a
chapter heading and the first paragraph also prevents the header from being
stripped.  I've never tried this myself, though, since I prefer a blank line
after chapter headings.

Good luck with submitting your cookbook.

Gerald


Exert from Validation Instructions

* Pagination, page numbers and running headers and footers: After
validation, Bookshare.org books are sent through an automated script
that attempts to do four things: 1. Identify page numbers, 2. Identify
recurring text at the top and bottom of each page (called "running
headers/footers"), 3. Remove all running headers and footers, and 4.
Replace page numbers with pagination code that will allow readers to
navigate the published book by page. This automated script is
designed to work well on a typical scanned book, so if the file you are
working on was scanned with decent software and pagination was left
intact, you should not need to do any additional work to ensure correct
pagination in the published file.

Volunteers can assist this tool by "normalizing" headers, footers, and
page numbers in submitted files where they do not appear consistent.



-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Charlene
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:30 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Header question


One thing I'd like to have clarified, because I usually don't validate,
is it one of the steps in the validation process to delete headers and
footers or is it something people do by choice?  Seems to me it's a part
of the book.  Also, why take the time to delete them if the stripper's
going to do it?  Also, if I understood things correctly, a copy of the
validated book is kept before it is subjected to a stripping, so why are
we removing things from the books?

Just trying to sort out this whole issue and appreciate the help!

Maybe you could say I'm stripping away the confusion at least that I
have about this whole issue.

Thanks!

Charlene


-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:22 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Header question


Sighted readers, too, Mike and Charlene. Except for dictionaries and
encyclopedias, I never realized they had a function, as  I never
utilized them. For nonfiction, I always used the index, and for both
nonfiction and fiction, I used the table of contents if I wanted to get
to a particular chapter or section.


Then I suppose when I'm validating now, at least until bookshare decides
what to do, I should leave the headers but make sure they're not garbled
and put the page number on a separate line in case the header gets
stripped.  But I suppose you're talking about chapter headers. Do author
or book title headers serve any purpose, or should I continue to delete
them?

Cindy


> Perhaps if blind readers were better educated as to
> how books were
> constructed and why particular info were included,
> they might be less
> opposed to them.
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