[bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles

  • From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:34:32 -0700

Thank you, Carrie; that's what I wanted to hear. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carrie Karnos 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:12 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles


  Hi Jill,

  There are two options.  One is to rescan the whole book, as you said, but 
there's another one which sounds like it would take less time.  A sighted 
person could get the book from a library, ask me to put the book back on the 
download list, grab the book from the download list, put in the chapter titles 
WITH protection (like the page number), and upload it again.  I approve it and 
we're done.
  If the book has a table of contents with the chapter titles listed, then a 
visually impaired person could do the same thing, using the table of contents 
to find the correct page to put the chapter title and protection. This is what 
Bob Wiley just did with the 3 Theodore Sturgeon books he was editing.

  Carrie


  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:29:04 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles


  Carrie, When we read a book in the collection and find there are no chapter 
headings, the book otherwise being in excellent condition, is there anything 
that can be done about this other than rescanning the book? jill
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Carrie Karnos 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:02 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles


    Hi Bob,

    I hate to say this, but I checked the first Sturgeon book, saw the several 
blank lines before each story title, approved the book, downloaded the DAISY 
version, and the story titles are gone.  This is just flat wrong. I'll talk to 
Engineering about it tomorrow.  I'll leave the other Sturgeon books in the 
approval queue until this gets sorted out.

    Sorry!  It will get fixed, sooner or later (hopefully sooner!)  Carrie


    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    To: bookshare volunteer discussion <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:03:07 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles

    I just wanted to give you kind folks a follow-up on the missing story titles
    in the Theodore Sturgeon collections.

    Originally, I noticed that just about all the titles of the stories in one
    of these collections was missing. My first thought was to blame the
    validator for not noticing this obvious error and fixing it. It turned out
    that Misha was the hapless recipient of my anger, and I know that he's a
    careful validator and wouldn't let something like that go. So then I thought
    of the scannor, which was Carrie. Carrie is also an excellent scannor and
    wouldn't let something like that get by. I was beginning to think of things
    like divine intervention and demon posession.

    I asked Carrie to send me the original document which was submitted by the
    validator, which she did, and "ah ha!" those ppesky titles were in place. In
    fact, they seemed to be grinning up at me as if to say... but, I digress.

    It turns out that the infamous stripper was doing the dirty to this
    collection.

    A short check of the bookshare collection shows that there are three other
    collections of Mr. Sturgeon's stories missing story titles in the bookshare
    collection.

    I have just uploaded those three books with, I hope, story titles in tact.
    It turns out that
    the solution is quite simple: I simply put a paragraph mark before and after
    all page breaks, and that damned stripper is fooled into leaving my titles
    alone.

    Just wanted to give a follow-up to this pesky problem.

    Bob

    "Strippers belong in bars, not libraries."--Author unknown.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
    To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:34 AM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles


    > hmm, makes me wonder if the "stripper," should be used at all? Aren't we
    > sophisticated enough by this time to handle the vagaries of what is
    > needed?
    > Or, maybe not?
    >
    > Curtis Delzer
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
    > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 8:31 AM
    > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing story titles
    >
    >
    > Ouch ouch. Like Bob, I am more confused now. Plus I don't have the
    > benefit of ever experiencing what these books are like after I validate
    > them because I'm sighted. So it's like dropping many hours of work into
    > a black hole and hoping for the best. And I, like many of you guys, am a
    > perfectionist. So I go over every word, check spellings in weird foreign
    > names, check everything, make it as perfect as I can, and upload it.
    >
    > But then what is happening to my work?
    >
    > I always do the wonderful ^p^m^p thing so that there are blank lines on
    > either side of the page breaks. But I have NOT been re-typing each page
    > number on the top of a page if the page numbers are at the bottom.
    >
    > I have left page numbers at the bottom of the page. Am I now correct in
    > my understanding that they all get wiped out? Even if there is a blank
    > line between the page number and the following page break?
    >
    > I do put a page number on the top of the first page of a chapter. It
    > just makes sense to do that. But is it mandatory put all other page
    > numbers at the top of each page?
    >
    > If the mysterious stripper is so smart can't it tell numeric characters
    > from alphabetic characters and leave numeric page numbers at the bottom
    > of the page?
    >
    > Devorah
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