Since constellation work is now a worldwide phenomenon, reaching every
continent, we are often dependent only on email as a source of communication
and this has an upside and a downside. Information discussed here has come from
direct experience as well as from stories about the direct experiences of
others. Thus fact, opinion, interpretation and perception have become muddled.
Bert has said many things, all in the context of the moment he said them in,
AND once said, they cannot be unsaid. Sometimes his words are repeated
accurately and sometimes not. I know that I could never say, "Bert never
said..." because as soon as I do, a colleague will say otherwise from their
direct experience. Daily, as I read these mails, I read LOTS of opinion and
interpretation based on previous opinions and interpretations of "statements",
some of which were actually said and some which never were. I have written
privately to those whose depiction of the facts I know to be erroneous. For the
rest, the dilution of fact into all other possibilities makes this forum
frustrating to me as a professional in the work. thanks. all the best, sheila
Constellation Intensive with Stephan Hausner July 28-Aug. 2 in Farmington,
CTSheila Saunders, RN, LMFT
www.systemicfamilysolutions.com
PO Box 1011 Weaverville, North Carolina 28787
828-273-5015
Letting your life run in the ordinary way is one option.
To: ConstellationTalk@yahoogroups.comFrom: anutoshf@gmail.comDate: Fri, 30 May
2008 00:57:53 -0700Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] ISCA Letter
Dear Dee YohYou have a very wise father. Thank you for sharing and it has
prompted me to share too.Yes, this work must be as ancient as our souls.
Perhaps forgotten along the way as we got more into our minds and away from our
essence which we all most thirst and longed for. In my opinion, Mr. Hellinger
is just a vehicle for these gifts to come thru especially for us in the
academic world at these times when we on a collective level are ready. Now many
of you facilitators have also been called and each with your uniqueness to
share. Different flowers, different fragrances, colours and etc.Isn't it
precious that there are no carbon copies! Existence is so generous that way.I
have never heard Hellinger say that only he can do this work. In fact in 1988
when i first attended his workshop, he said anyone can do this work. I do not
faciltate and have enjoyed hosting these workshops when the opportunity
allows.About Hellinger Scientia, i personally feel that he has the right to
charge for royalties if anyone is going to use his family name for their work.
He is not putting a gun to anyone's head to use it but if you must then pay. It
makes good business sense for him and he has the right to protect his family
name. Could it be that Hellinger Scientia have birthed itself during the time
when there was so much gossips about him, his new wife and his new way of
working and perhaps this is how the "Field" balances itself?!He openly
mentioned in Pich 1 that he had found a new respect for business which he did
not take care of before. I appreciated that he openly declared that and at age
84, he is still learning. It may appear that i am taking sides and am not. Such
is the limitation of words. Thanks to you, Dee Yoh, i will borrow your same
quote from Rhett Butler!It has been wonderful for me to taste the different
flavours that each facilitator while in service to this work have contributed.
Clearly hidden in diversity is harmony. Such is the paradox of this precious
life and i get to grow up thru it all.Cult is an interesting subject too. I
think we all belong to some cult or another. I think if it is more then one
person, it is a cult :-))I think a family is a cult. in reverenceAnutosh-----
Original Message ----- From: Dee Yoh To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:03 PMSubject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] ISCA
LetterI too have just been quietly listening but will now share a few
thoughts.When I was young my father was a preacher of a little country church
that held Sunday morning services.Sunday evenings we visited different churches
of all different faiths. One day I asked my Dad what faith we were because we
attend so many different churches. The answer my father shared with me that day
I have carried with me all through my life and I find it serves me well today.
"Listen to every man. Take in all they say, then internally, you sort it out.
You take what resonates with your soul and the rest, you leave without
judgment." He furthered explained the illusion of right or wrong, but different
paths. A piece that I may be leave behind will serve another very well. What
serves me well may not resonate with another. But rest assured, in each person,
you can find something to take away for yourself. Focus on that, and let the
rest go!He also warned me: Be careful if you take in everything any one person
believes, no one man has all the answers....Just as no one man holds the key to
any knowledge. It is all in the field and it's a matter of what we experience
and find in the moment. Sheila pointed out... Nothing is really new... Bert set
up many people without them knowing who they are. Looked a lot like Sneh's
coyote constellations. What Bert now calls 3 dimensional work/Spirit Mind looks
a lot like work Gabrielle Borkin started doing/teaching back in 2001. I
remember in DC a couple years ago Bert set up an aspect and said it was the
first time he had done this. It surprised me... we had been working with
aspects for years and I didn't even realize he wasn't doing it yet. This
doesn't take away from what he is doing, just shows that the information is in
the field and no one person owns it. How can anyone own it? Bert pioneered this
work and holds that place of honor. Then we find things that are new to us. And
at the same time, someone half way around the world may be sensing the same
thing. So sometimes we discover things that are new to us. Sometimes we see
others and learn from their ways. And through this our own unique thumbprint
becomes our own. Just like the experiences of many churches, I don't believe
any one way is better or worse than another. One thing I LOVE about this work
is that there are many different ways. I embrace the diversity in each one of
us. I was once told I HAD to make a decision as to what "side" I would stand. I
choose not to choose. I have the deepest respect and gratitude for ALL those
from whom I have learned (and continue to learn). I choose to learn from all,
take what resonates with my soul and leave the rest, without judgment. Which
side do you choose to stand? For my purpose, it is not necessary to say..... To
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