Thanks, Elmar. I'll let Jan know.
Jane
On 9/25/05 2:14 PM, "tmasthenes13" <TomBuoyed@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Although it is rare but some facilitators would ask clientse.g. Murderers.
(decendents of Perpretrators or victims ) to bow to perpretrators
that no one within in a family can be excluded except perpetrators.
However, Bert Hellinger in the past used to let the perpretrators
just left the system physically. In some books, Bert mentioned
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Anyone can comment on this issue?
Simon HO
Simon,
Thank you for asking these questions, as I have similar confusion
about the place of perpetrators in the system and how are they to be
excluded yet not excluded.
I have a further confusion about the perpetrators. What is the
difference between someone who murders a victim in the same family
and someone who murders a stranger from another family system?
I understand that a murderer from another family system becomes part
of the victim's family system. Does the murderer need to be
acknowledged and honored and then excluded by the victim's family
memebrs? What happens to the murderer's family system? How do they
not exclude the person who has clearly excluded himself by the act of
murder?
Thomas
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