ISCA has been a great resource for us -- we've especially appreciated the
website with its links and resources and the sponsorship of the intensive. We
also think that ISCA's presence as an international organization lends crucial
legitimacy to this work as we all seek to make it more available.
It's true that larger countries, especially as the work becomes more well
known, will probably develop national organizations, but many smaller countries
or countries where the work is not well know will probably not have a national
organization. In any event the inclusiveness and cultural diversity of an
international organization seems very much aligned with the principles of the
work itself.
Perhaps it would make sense to try to continue an organization with the more
modest objective of supporting the intensive and the website, while providing
an international presence as the work grows and the need for other efforts
emerges.
We very much appreciate and respect this Board's efforts, and we take seriously
in particular their budgetary concerns -- and we're very willing to support an
effort to expand membership and shrink expenses. But we are inclined to hope
that the organization will not dissolve.
Don and Susan Pogue
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On Oct 26, 2014, at 5:16 PM, "Leslie Nipps lnipps@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk]" <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What a fascinating development! It was interesting to note that the statement
implies absolutely no deep systemic conflict, just the lack of systemic
energy to make it happen.
In the U.S., our constellations community is built of many individual
facilitators and trainers, many of whom are connected in informal networks,
but no single organizational body that connects us. It's interesting to
consider the ways this reflects underlying patterns in our field, and the
ways in which shifts in those patterns could benefit us all.
In that context, I’d like to let everyone know that we are ON for a North
American conference in 2015 in San Diego this fall. One of the primary
interests of the planning team is how to sustain an ongoing community and
conversation in the North American context. We’ve been exploring how to best
create that community, and we hope to bring a special effort to seeing what
the field in this region is ready to birth amongst us, and to be pro-active
midwives of that birthing. We welcome your participation and feedback as we
grow our national and international communities!
As we know more, we’ll be sharing that information. The work is still quite
preliminary (and exciting!). For now, we can announce that the co-directors
are myself and James Woeber. In the context of the work in the U.S., we’re
both “third generation” practitioners, which we think actually creates some
room for creating a dynamic conversation about both our traditional
inheritances and emerging innovations.
The planning team can’t wait to share more as our vision and groundwork
proceeds. If you feel so inclined, we’d be grateful for your well-wishes and
prayers.
The Rev. Leslie Nipps, NLP & Family Constellations Practitioner
“Trust as a Way of Life…”
www.leslienipps.com
leslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Constellation Talk <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Constellation Talk <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:06:54 -0400
To: Constellation Talk <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] The call to dissolve ISCA
Thank you Sheila for your heart felt thoughts about iISCA
We can't complain about the organization's demise if we have
not been active trying to keep it alive and relevant.
On the local level I have benefited from and contributed towards
the educational and mutual support activities of systemic facilitators
in the Washington, D.C. area. Our meetings are small, about 10 or 12
facilitators, some established and some starting out. The informal
yet interactive nature of our relationships connected to the workshops
and coaching we offer and the learning we want to share, keeps our
process alive. Being affiliated with a national or international umbrella
organization would be ideal. Perhaps in the future something will take
ISCA place in an organic manner to fill this need.
This model of local and national/international levels and linkages is common
with
various practice groups. The Mankind Project and the Organizational
Development
Network are two groups I belong to that use it. There are many others.
So I regret the passing of ISCA but do believe eventually something will take
its place
if this work continues to evolve and grow as I believe it will.
Cheers
Harrison Snow
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On Oct 22, 2014, at 7:42 AM, "sheila saunders peacefulcentre@xxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk]" <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just wanted to weigh in on this recent announcement by ISCA. Several people
have responded to Chris' initial email; many questions posed were answered
in the posting put out by ISCA's Board, however. Chris posed an issue that
was not addressed by the Board, however, and that was about the absence of
debate or discussion. This has taken place among Board members, but it does
not appear to have taken place in a wider framework of the membership or the
larger community.
Although it was my good fortune to be present at the Founding Assembly of
the organization back in May 2007, several years after a significant amount
of work, time, effort, discussion, debate, and consideration took place
among a few individuals (history of ISCA can be found on the website
www.isca-network.org ), I only remained a member for the first year or 2. I
stopped because at the time I could not find the way in which it was
beneficial for me to remain a member. This is no reflection on the
organization, it mostly reflects my own ambivalence about "belonging" and my
lifelong allergy to organizations. But knowing in detail, the painful,
arduous, and full-hearted birthing process, I was saddened to hear of the
Board's assessment that it is no longer viable. I understand it, I'm just
sorry to hear it.
It reminds me of an orchid someone gave me years ago, that had dropped it's
blooms, and was just a pretty green plant. To me it was no less beautiful
without the flower, and it was no less an orchid either. I just started
placing 3 ice cubes once a week on the soil, and within a year, it bloomed
more profusely than ever before. Then the blooms dropped, it is once again
"dormant", but I continue to have 3 ice cubes once a week placed on the
soil. I have no doubt that it will bloom again.
In this way I consider ISCA. I believe that there is tremendous value in the
organization, for many people, and the inertia of only a few doing all the
work, is the usual way of the traditional system. ISCA did not escape this
fate. For me, this reflects a common flaw in most systems, and does not
diminish the value, integrity, place or opportunity that is ISCA.
I am interested in how others feel about this turn of events.
thanks, and all the best, sheila
Sheila Saunders, RN, LMFT
www.systemicfamilysolutions.com
PO Box 1011 Weaverville, North Carolina 28787
828-273-5015
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souls of the dead from whom we have sprung come to lavish on us their riches
and their spells." -Marcel Proust (In Search of Lost Time)
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:00:08 +1100
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] The call to dissolve ISCA
Hi everyone
For those of you who don't know ISCA is the International Systemic
Constellation Association. It is the umbrella international organisation for
systemic constellation work.
Below you will find an email sent out to all its members calling for a vote
to dissolve ISCA. Dissolution requires 75% of voting members to vote yes
for the dissolution.
This has been instigated by the board without any process for debate or
discussion being set in place. The internet voting process amongst members
has now been opened by the board. Voting will close on November 7.
As this is a significant development in the field, I invite anyone who wants
to, to use constellation talk to discuss the relative merits of keeping ISCA
going or shutting it down.
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9487 4647
www.cwalsh.com.au
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: ISCA Network <admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:41 PM
Subject: End of an Era - Call for online General Assembly
To: Christopher Walsh <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Dear Christopher Walsh,
ISCA’s Board and Lutz Bessel our Business Manager have been involved over
the last months in an intense process, discussion and debate regarding
ISCA’s future. This process has included physical meetings, online exchanges
and several Organisational Constellations that have helped us clarify the
dynamics, options and decisions regarding our organisation.
It is now time to share this process with all members and request their
support in the decision we have unanimously reached.
First a brief summary of the facts:
ISCA was founded in May 2007 and legally registered under German Law as a
non profit organisation. Current membership has remained stable at around
250 for the past 4 years.
Over the years a number of initiatives have been launched, originating from
the Board, from ISCA’s two gatherings and from suggestions received from
members. These have included: Research Project, Curriculum Documentation,
Ethics, Project Sponsorship. After some initial interest and support, actual
member involvement in these activities at any one point in time can be
counted with a single hand.
The income from the annual Membership fee of Euros 60 is not sufficient to
cover the expenses of an organisation like ISCA, especially regarding its
possibility to fund website developments, research and other activities to
further ISCA’s objectives and development. To illustrate this point the
difference between income and expenses for 2011, 2012 and 2013 has been
respectively EU 2.759, (6.942) and (5.836).
The Board observes lots of activity in the worldwide Constellations
community and given the previous assessment, has reached the conclusion that
although there is energy, interest and activity regarding Constellations,
the time is not yet right for an open, all inclusive organisation like ISCA.
It is possible that the field still needs to mature into a clearer structure
of national organisations and possibly also, there will at some point be a
requirement for an international body that helps to regulate our activities.
This is well beyond ISCA’s terms of reference and the vision and mission
that have guided us.
Call for online General Assembly to dissolve ISCA
As a result of the process and discussions outlined above and in accordance
with ISCA’s Charter of Association the Board is convening an Online General
Assembly to be held between October 19th and November 2nd, 2014. At this
General Assembly, members will be asked to vote on the Board’s proposal to
DISSOLVE the Association in accordance with the process established in the
Charter and according to German Law. You will receive via e-mail the
necessary instructions regarding the online secure voting procedure. For its
approval, the proposed dissolution requires 75% of the votes issued at this
General Assembly.
The Charter establishes that any funds remaining after dissolving the
Association shall be donated to: “Häuser der Hoffnung – Schulbildung für die
Dritte Welt, gemeinnütziger e.V., c/o Weber, Schlosshof 6, D-69168,
Wiesloch, www.haeuser-der-hoffnung.org, which shall use them exclusively for
charity purposes”. This charity’s name in English translates as: “Homes of
Hope – Schooling for the Third World” and its activities are mainly based in
Mali (Africa) where it teaches young girls competencies that improve their
work prospects.
It is also important to note that the International Systemic Intensive held
annually at Bernried (close to Münich, Germany) will continue under the
organisation and leadership of Lutz Bessel.
The Board’s proposal
The ISCA Board and its Business Manager have unanimously reached the
conclusion that ISCA is not at this time a viable organisation and propose
to this online General Assembly the Association’s dissolution in accordance
with ISCA’s charter.
In case of this vote being approved by 75% of voting members at the
Assembly, the Board will be mandated by this General Assembly to complete
the Association’s dissolution as established by its Charter and by German
Law. This mandate will extend if necessary beyond the current Board’s period
that expires in May 2015.
If the vote is not approved by the necessary majority, the Board will call
for the election of a new Board and hand over its mandate in May, 2015.
YES
NO
Membership and renewal fees
Between now and November 2nd, 2014, member registration and renewals has
been suspended. If dissolution is approved, membership and renewals will no
longer be available at the ISCA site. If the General Assembly does not
approve dissolution by the required vote, membership and renewals will once
again become available.
We thank you for your support over these years and please let us have any
questions regarding this process at info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Clare Crombie (President)
Brendan O’Brien (Vice President)
Tomás Kohn (Treasurer)
Lutz Bessel (Business Manager)
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