Although I have not been a part of this organization I am a systems expert
and as such know all organization have a role in the balance of the body of
all aspects with which it was created to embrace and not to acknowledge how
it's absence will affect the environment and subsequent potentials of other
systems it is connected with the greater good. I am the first to
acknowledge know little about this organization yet am a systems expert
well aware all systems affect other systems and find myself wondering what
will replace "be lost or gained" by its absence and are there untapped
resources which can be reasonably utilized to attain the primariy intended
goals/functions this organization?
Ron Bauer
LMFT
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014, Chris Walsh chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Sheila (and everyone else)
I find the salient thing in your story is that you respected the life that
still existed in your flowerless orchid. You respected the gift given to
you and you nourished it so it could blossom again and again.
I know that it often seems as if ISCA doesn't do very much. There in fact
have been a number of ISCA initiatives not the least of which was
establishing the legal entity of ISCA. Hunter Beaumont and others had to do
enormous amounts of work to get ISCA registered as a not for profit
organisation and in establishing the internet website including a way of
registering members. While it is true that there has been a lack of energy
around this organisation, it still holds a place that can act as a lynchpin
for national organisations. It would be a shame to euthanase ISCA only to
find we had to go through that arduous process all over again.
I think ISCA is worthwhile maintaining as an entity even if it only holds
that space. Of course it would be wonderful if ISCA could harness the
energy available in the field to become a vibrant and active organisation -
but that is another story. :-)
If ISCA were to shut down there have been a number of resources developed
by ISCA such as the collection of information about different training
programs around the world, a research database and a series of articles
written on the history of constellation work which have been translated
into about 8 different languages. The board has not made an adequate
statement about their intentions to responsibly ensure that these and other
resources are not wasted or lost in the process of euthenasing ISCA. I
personally believe the membership ballot without such a plan and without
adequate opportunity for discussion and reflection amongst the membership
is actually a significant error of judgement. I personally would like to
see the ballot cancelled so these issues could be addressed before
preceding.
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9487 4647
www.cwalsh.com.au
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:42 PM, sheila saunders
peacefulcentre@xxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','peacefulcentre@xxxxxxxxxxx');>
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>>
wrote:
Just wanted to weigh in on this recent announcement by ISCA. Several
people have responded to Chris' initial email; many questions posed were
answered in the posting put out by ISCA's Board, however. Chris posed an
issue that was not addressed by the Board, however, and that was about the
absence of debate or discussion. This has taken place among Board members,
but it does not appear to have taken place in a wider framework of the
membership or the larger community.
Although it was my good fortune to be present at the Founding Assembly of
the organization back in May 2007, several years after a significant amount
of work, time, effort, discussion, debate, and consideration took place
among a few individuals (history of ISCA can be found on the website
www.isca-network.org ), I only remained a member for the first year or
2. I stopped because at the time I could not find the way in which it was
beneficial for me to remain a member. This is no reflection on the
organization, it mostly reflects my own ambivalence about "belonging" and
my lifelong allergy to organizations. But knowing in detail, the painful,
arduous, and full-hearted birthing process, I was saddened to hear of the
Board's assessment that it is no longer viable. I understand it, I'm just
sorry to hear it.
It reminds me of an orchid someone gave me years ago, that had dropped
it's blooms, and was just a pretty green plant. To me it was no less
beautiful without the flower, and it was no less an orchid either. I just
started placing 3 ice cubes once a week on the soil, and within a year, it
bloomed more profusely than ever before. Then the blooms dropped, it is
once again "dormant", but I continue to have 3 ice cubes once a week placed
on the soil. I have no doubt that it will bloom again.
In this way I consider ISCA. I believe that there is tremendous value in
the organization, for many people, and the inertia of only a few doing all
the work, is the usual way of the traditional system. ISCA did not escape
this fate. For me, this reflects a common flaw in most systems, and does
not diminish the value, integrity, place or opportunity that is ISCA.
I am interested in how others feel about this turn of events.
thanks, and all the best, sheila
*Sheila Saunders, RN, LMFT *
*www.systemicfamilysolutions.com*
<http://www.systemicfamilysolutions.com/>
*PO Box 1011 Weaverville, North Carolina 28787 *
*828-273-5015*
*Even If It Costs Me My Life! by Stephan Hausner; available for $33 plus
shipping - hit REPLY with BOOK in subject line. *
*"When we have passed a certain age, the soul of the child we were and
the souls of the dead from whom we have sprung come to lavish on us their
riches and their spells." -Marcel Proust (In Search of Lost Time)*
------------------------------
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>
From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:00:08 +1100
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] The call to dissolve ISCA
Hi everyone
For those of you who don't know ISCA is the International Systemic
Constellation Association. It is the umbrella international organisation
for systemic constellation work.
Below you will find an email sent out to all its members calling for a
vote to dissolve ISCA. Dissolution requires 75% of voting members to vote
yes for the dissolution.
This has been instigated by the board without any process for debate or
discussion being set in place. The internet voting process amongst members
has now been opened by the board. Voting will close on November 7.
As this is a significant development in the field, I invite anyone who
wants to, to use constellation talk to discuss the relative merits of
keeping ISCA going or shutting it down.
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9487 4647
www.cwalsh.com.au
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *ISCA Network* <admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>>
Date: Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:41 PM
Subject: End of an Era - Call for online General Assembly
To: Christopher Walsh <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx');>>
*Dear Christopher Walsh*,
ISCA’s Board and Lutz Bessel our Business Manager have been involved over
the last months in an intense process, discussion and debate regarding
ISCA’s future. This process has included physical meetings, online
exchanges and several Organisational Constellations that have helped us
clarify the dynamics, options and decisions regarding our organisation.
It is now time to share this process with all members and request their
support in the decision we have unanimously reached.
*First a brief summary of the facts:*
- ISCA was founded in May 2007 and legally registered under German
Law as a non profit organisation. Current membership has remained stable
at
around 250 for the past 4 years.
- Over the years a number of initiatives have been launched,
originating from the Board, from ISCA’s two gatherings and from
suggestions
received from members. These have included: Research Project, Curriculum
Documentation, Ethics, Project Sponsorship. After some initial interest
and
support, actual member involvement in these activities at any one point in
time can be counted with a single hand.
- The income from the annual Membership fee of Euros 60 is not
sufficient to cover the expenses of an organisation like ISCA, especially
regarding its possibility to fund website developments, research and other
activities to further ISCA’s objectives and development. To illustrate
this
point the difference between income and expenses for 2011, 2012 and 2013
has been respectively EU 2.759, (6.942) and (5.836).
The Board observes lots of activity in the worldwide Constellations
community and given the previous assessment, has reached the conclusion
that although there is energy, interest and activity regarding
Constellations, the time is not yet right for an open, all inclusive
organisation like ISCA. It is possible that the field still needs to mature
into a clearer structure of national organisations and possibly also, there
will at some point be a requirement for an international body that helps to
regulate our activities. This is well beyond ISCA’s terms of reference and
the vision and mission that have guided us.
*Call for online General Assembly to dissolve ISCA*
As a result of the process and discussions outlined above and in
accordance with ISCA’s Charter of Association the Board is convening an
Online General Assembly to be held between October 19th and November 2nd,
2014. At this General Assembly, members will be asked to vote on the
Board’s proposal to DISSOLVE the Association in accordance with the process
established in the Charter and according to German Law. You will receive
via e-mail the necessary instructions regarding the online secure voting
procedure. For its approval, the proposed dissolution requires *75%* of
the votes issued at this General Assembly.
The Charter establishes that any funds remaining after dissolving the
Association shall be donated to: “Häuser der Hoffnung – Schulbildung für
die Dritte Welt, gemeinnütziger e.V., c/o Weber, Schlosshof 6, D-69168,
Wiesloch, www.haeuser-der-hoffnung.org, which shall use them exclusively
for charity purposes”. This charity’s name in English translates as: “Homes
of Hope – Schooling for the Third World” and its activities are mainly
based in Mali (Africa) where it teaches young girls competencies that
improve their work prospects.
It is also important to note that the International Systemic Intensive
held annually at Bernried (close to Münich, Germany) will continue under
the organisation and leadership of Lutz Bessel.
*The Board’s proposal*
*The ISCA Board and its Business Manager have unanimously reached the
conclusion that ISCA is not at this time a viable organisation and propose
to this online General Assembly the Association’s dissolution in accordance
with ISCA’s charter.*
*In case of this vote being approved by 75% of voting members at the
Assembly, the Board will be mandated by this General Assembly to complete
the Association’s dissolution as established by its Charter and by German
Law. This mandate will extend if necessary beyond the current Board’s
period that expires in May 2015.*
*If the vote is not approved by the necessary majority, the Board will
call for the election of a new Board and hand over its mandate in May,
2015.*
*YES*
*NO*
*Membership and renewal fees*
Between now and November 2nd, 2014, member registration and renewals has
been suspended. If dissolution is approved, membership and renewals will no
longer be available at the ISCA site. If the General Assembly does not
approve dissolution by the required vote, membership and renewals will once
again become available.
We thank you for your support over these years and please let us have any
questions regarding this process at *info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx');>.*
*Clare Crombie (President)*
*Brendan O’Brien (Vice President)*
*Tomás Kohn (Treasurer)*
*Lutz Bessel (Business Manager)*
Unsubscribe
<http://www.isca-network.org/Sys/Unsubscribe?email=info%40cwalsh.com.au&type=Newsletters>
