I agree with the Pogues' support for ISCA's presence and diversity,
especially as embodied in their website and Intensive. I live in Canada and
have attended Constellations workshops and intensives here, in US and in
Bernreid. I experienced great diversity, inclusivity and respect for the
Field in Bernried... and I believe that is because of the population its
draws and the histories of place, organisational structure, natural beauty
and faculty involvement, there. The community created at those Intensives
and the way faculty handled issues that came to their attention, encouraged
new learning and appreciation of the evolution of the Constellations field.
It would be a great loss for all that to go. I understand that the
Intensive will continue. I hope the website and The Knowing Field journal
will also do so. We need community. Wounds that are transgenerational need
healing in community.
Warmly,
Eimear
www.eimearoneill.com
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:33 AM, sanddpogue sanddpogue@xxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
ISCA has been a great resource for us -- we've especially appreciated the
website with its links and resources and the sponsorship of the intensive.
We also think that ISCA's presence as an international organization lends
crucial legitimacy to this work as we all seek to make it more available.
It's true that larger countries, especially as the work becomes more well
known, will probably develop national organizations, but many smaller
countries or countries where the work is not well know will probably not
have a national organization. In any event the inclusiveness and cultural
diversity of an international organization seems very much aligned with the
principles of the work itself.
Perhaps it would make sense to try to continue an organization with the
more modest objective of supporting the intensive and the website, while
providing an international presence as the work grows and the need for
other efforts emerges.
We very much appreciate and respect this Board's efforts, and we take
seriously in particular their budgetary concerns -- and we're very willing
to support an effort to expand membership and shrink expenses. But we are
inclined to hope that the organization will not dissolve.
Don and Susan Pogue
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 26, 2014, at 5:16 PM, "Leslie Nipps lnipps@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk]" <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What a fascinating development! It was interesting to note that the
statement implies absolutely no deep systemic conflict, just the lack of
systemic energy to make it happen.
In the U.S., our constellations community is built of many individual
facilitators and trainers, many of whom are connected in informal networks,
but no single organizational body that connects us. It's interesting to
consider the ways this reflects underlying patterns in our field, and the
ways in which shifts in those patterns could benefit us all.
In that context, I’d like to let everyone know that we are ON for a North
American conference in 2015 in San Diego this fall. One of the
primary interests of the planning team is how to sustain an ongoing
community and conversation in the North American context. We’ve been
exploring how to best create that community, and we hope to bring a special
effort to seeing what the field in this region is ready to birth amongst
us, and to be pro-active midwives of that birthing. We welcome your
participation and feedback as we grow our national and international
communities!
As we know more, we’ll be sharing that information. The work is still
quite preliminary (and exciting!). For now, we can announce that the
co-directors are myself and James Woeber. In the context of the work in the
U.S., we’re both “third generation” practitioners, which we think actually
creates some room for creating a dynamic conversation about both our
traditional inheritances and emerging innovations.
The planning team can’t wait to share more as our vision and groundwork
proceeds. If you feel so inclined, we’d be grateful for your well-wishes
and prayers.
The Rev. Leslie Nipps, NLP & Family Constellations Practitioner
“Trust as a Way of Life…”
www.leslienipps.com
leslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Constellation Talk <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Constellation Talk <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:06:54 -0400
To: Constellation Talk <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] The call to dissolve ISCA
Thank you Sheila for your heart felt thoughts about iISCA
We can't complain about the organization's demise if we have
not been active trying to keep it alive and relevant.
On the local level I have benefited from and contributed towards
the educational and mutual support activities of systemic facilitators
in the Washington, D.C. area. Our meetings are small, about 10 or 12
facilitators, some established and some starting out. The informal
yet interactive nature of our relationships connected to the workshops
and coaching we offer and the learning we want to share, keeps our
process alive. Being affiliated with a national or international umbrella
organization would be ideal. Perhaps in the future something will take
ISCA place in an organic manner to fill this need.
This model of local and national/international levels and linkages is
common with
various practice groups. The Mankind Project and the Organizational
Development
Network are two groups I belong to that use it. There are many others.
So I regret the passing of ISCA but do believe eventually something will
take its place
if this work continues to evolve and grow as I believe it will.
Cheers
Harrison Snow
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 22, 2014, at 7:42 AM, "sheila saunders peacefulcentre@xxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk]" <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just wanted to weigh in on this recent announcement by ISCA. Several
people have responded to Chris' initial email; many questions posed were
answered in the posting put out by ISCA's Board, however. Chris posed an
issue that was not addressed by the Board, however, and that was about the
absence of debate or discussion. This has taken place among Board members,
but it does not appear to have taken place in a wider framework of the
membership or the larger community.
Although it was my good fortune to be present at the Founding Assembly of
the organization back in May 2007, several years after a significant amount
of work, time, effort, discussion, debate, and consideration took place
among a few individuals (history of ISCA can be found on the website
www.isca-network.org ), I only remained a member for the first year or 2.
I stopped because at the time I could not find the way in which it was
beneficial for me to remain a member. This is no reflection on the
organization, it mostly reflects my own ambivalence about "belonging" and
my lifelong allergy to organizations. But knowing in detail, the painful,
arduous, and full-hearted birthing process, I was saddened to hear of the
Board's assessment that it is no longer viable. I understand it, I'm just
sorry to hear it.
It reminds me of an orchid someone gave me years ago, that had dropped
it's blooms, and was just a pretty green plant. To me it was no less
beautiful without the flower, and it was no less an orchid either. I just
started placing 3 ice cubes once a week on the soil, and within a year, it
bloomed more profusely than ever before. Then the blooms dropped, it is
once again "dormant", but I continue to have 3 ice cubes once a week placed
on the soil. I have no doubt that it will bloom again.
In this way I consider ISCA. I believe that there is tremendous value in
the organization, for many people, and the inertia of only a few doing all
the work, is the usual way of the traditional system. ISCA did not escape
this fate. For me, this reflects a common flaw in most systems, and does
not diminish the value, integrity, place or opportunity that is ISCA.
I am interested in how others feel about this turn of events.
thanks, and all the best, sheila
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To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:00:08 +1100
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] The call to dissolve ISCA
Hi everyone
For those of you who don't know ISCA is the International Systemic
Constellation Association. It is the umbrella international organisation
for systemic constellation work.
Below you will find an email sent out to all its members calling for a
vote to dissolve ISCA. Dissolution requires 75% of voting members to vote
yes for the dissolution.
This has been instigated by the board without any process for debate or
discussion being set in place. The internet voting process amongst members
has now been opened by the board. Voting will close on November 7.
As this is a significant development in the field, I invite anyone who
wants to, to use constellation talk to discuss the relative merits of
keeping ISCA going or shutting it down.
Cheers
Chris Walsh
Melbourne, Australia
ph +61 (0)3 9487 4647
www.cwalsh.com.au
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *ISCA Network* <admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:41 PM
Subject: End of an Era - Call for online General Assembly
To: Christopher Walsh <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Dear Christopher Walsh*,
ISCA’s Board and Lutz Bessel our Business Manager have been involved over
the last months in an intense process, discussion and debate regarding
ISCA’s future. This process has included physical meetings, online
exchanges and several Organisational Constellations that have helped us
clarify the dynamics, options and decisions regarding our organisation.
It is now time to share this process with all members and request their
support in the decision we have unanimously reached.
*First a brief summary of the facts:*
- ISCA was founded in May 2007 and legally registered under German Law
as a non profit organisation. Current membership has remained stable at
around 250 for the past 4 years.
- Over the years a number of initiatives have been launched,
originating from the Board, from ISCA’s two gatherings and from suggestions
received from members. These have included: Research Project, Curriculum
Documentation, Ethics, Project Sponsorship. After some initial interest and
support, actual member involvement in these activities at any one point in
time can be counted with a single hand.
- The income from the annual Membership fee of Euros 60 is not
sufficient to cover the expenses of an organisation like ISCA, especially
regarding its possibility to fund website developments, research and other
activities to further ISCA’s objectives and development. To illustrate this
point the difference between income and expenses for 2011, 2012 and 2013
has been respectively EU 2.759, (6.942) and (5.836).
The Board observes lots of activity in the worldwide Constellations
community and given the previous assessment, has reached the conclusion
that although there is energy, interest and activity regarding
Constellations, the time is not yet right for an open, all inclusive
organisation like ISCA. It is possible that the field still needs to mature
into a clearer structure of national organisations and possibly also, there
will at some point be a requirement for an international body that helps to
regulate our activities. This is well beyond ISCA’s terms of reference and
the vision and mission that have guided us.
*Call for online General Assembly to dissolve ISCA*
As a result of the process and discussions outlined above and in
accordance with ISCA’s Charter of Association the Board is convening an
Online General Assembly to be held between October 19th and November 2nd,
2014. At this General Assembly, members will be asked to vote on the
Board’s proposal to DISSOLVE the Association in accordance with the process
established in the Charter and according to German Law. You will receive
via e-mail the necessary instructions regarding the online secure voting
procedure. For its approval, the proposed dissolution requires *75%* of
the votes issued at this General Assembly.
The Charter establishes that any funds remaining after dissolving the
Association shall be donated to: “Häuser der Hoffnung – Schulbildung für
die Dritte Welt, gemeinnütziger e.V., c/o Weber, Schlosshof 6, D-69168,
Wiesloch, www.haeuser-der-hoffnung.org, which shall use them exclusively
for charity purposes”. This charity’s name in English translates as: “Homes
of Hope – Schooling for the Third World” and its activities are mainly
based in Mali (Africa) where it teaches young girls competencies that
improve their work prospects.
It is also important to note that the International Systemic Intensive
held annually at Bernried (close to Münich, Germany) will continue under
the organisation and leadership of Lutz Bessel.
*The Board’s proposal*
*The ISCA Board and its Business Manager have unanimously reached the
conclusion that ISCA is not at this time a viable organisation and propose
to this online General Assembly the Association’s dissolution in accordance
with ISCA’s charter.*
*In case of this vote being approved by 75% of voting members at the
Assembly, the Board will be mandated by this General Assembly to complete
the Association’s dissolution as established by its Charter and by German
Law. This mandate will extend if necessary beyond the current Board’s
period that expires in May 2015.*
*If the vote is not approved by the necessary majority, the Board will
call for the election of a new Board and hand over its mandate in May,
2015.*
*YES*
*NO*
*Membership and renewal fees*
Between now and November 2nd, 2014, member registration and renewals has
been suspended. If dissolution is approved, membership and renewals will no
longer be available at the ISCA site. If the General Assembly does not
approve dissolution by the required vote, membership and renewals will once
again become available.
We thank you for your support over these years and please let us have any
questions regarding this process at *info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>.*
*Clare Crombie (President)*
*Brendan O’Brien (Vice President)*
*Tomás Kohn (Treasurer)*
*Lutz Bessel (Business Manager)*
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