Re: [ConstellationTalk] heart disease patients and heart transplant patients

  • From: cmegighianzenati@xxxxxxx
  • To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:51:22 -0400

What a beautiful constellation....
Thank you barbara
chiara

Dr. Chiara H. Megighian-Zenati
104 Hawthorne Rd
Pittsburgh, PA 15238

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Sent: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:19 am
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] heart disease patients and heart transplant patients






On the subject of heart disease I do have a story to share.  I saw a
constellation where an 83 year old man was in an experimental treatment for a
heart condition that no one understood. He set up his heart and himself. The
representatives were blind. What unfolded was so precious and amazing the whole
room was in tears. The heart kept looking up and exclaiming how beautiful it
was up there. The man kept looking too but claimed not to see anything. The
heart yearned to go there and each time she expressed that, the man would get
very anxious. The heart would then soothe the man and tell him it was okay,
they didn't need to go. At the end, they sat back to back with the man leaning
on the heart. The heart kept looking up pensively and the man sat looking down
and depressed. Then the heart said to the man, "It's okay. We have plenty of
time." And then they sat there together quietly. The client realized he didn't
need to be in an experimental treatment program.  It was c
lear to him what was going on with his heart. Isn't that lovely? I love this
work!

Barbara in Sacramento, CA



-------------- Original message --------------
From: cmegighianzenati@xxxxxxx
dear constellation colleagues. I am going to discuss with an academic
psycologist a study with heart disease patients and heart transplant
patients who are not responding well to conventional therapy. In my
proposal I will offer to consider a Family Constellation approach. I
would appreciate if you had any experience to share or any good reading
of work already done.
Thankfully
Chiara

Dr. Chiara H. Megighian-Zenati
104 Hawthorne Rd
Pittsburgh, PA 15238

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonine Lee <satoribreath@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] transference of symptoms between
siblings

I am reminded of the story Bert wrote or I came across in
FC writings,

about the doctor that visited a patient

and saw death standing at the end of the bed,,,,,not wanting his young

patient to die

he turned the bed around and the following week he died...

do we just keep moving the bed around.....until we gain the insight
that we

need in order to find a deeper or different level of acceptance...

Jonine Lee

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From: "Ulrike Danks" <ulrikedanks@xxxxxxxxxxx>

To: <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:43 PM

Subject: RE: [ConstellationTalk] transference of symptoms between
siblings

Dear all,

I was just browsing the internet in pursue of a particular FC topic,
when

I

came across a paragraph that surprised and touched me as it could
relate

to

our family.



Here is the paragraph from a German interview of Stefan Hausner by

Marianne

Franke published on Stefan's website www.stephan-hausner.de:

'Ich habe auch immer wieder erlebt, wenn sich ein Geschwister aus
einer

Verstrickung löst, es manchmal ein anderes Kind aus dieser Familie

plötzlich

schwerer hat oder sogar die Symptome übernimmt: Das findet man vor
allem

dann, wenn die Eltern, aus welchem Grund auch immer, sich dem

ausgegrenzten

Thema nicht stellen können.'



english Translation:

'I have expereinced again and again, that when one sibling resolves an

entanglement for him/herself, sometimes another sibling of this family

suddenly has a hard time or even takes on the symptoms: You find that

particularily when for whatever reasons the parents are not able to

address

the excluded issue'



This appears to be the case in our family, where my sister (having had

several cancer scares) and myself ( having been through treatment and

recovery) have after much work and soul movements disentangled
ourselves

from our father's/parents fate's and have a brother, who is now very
sick

with cancer. Being familiar with the particular systemic
entanglement,

that

led to the female siblings dis-eases, I know that my brother is also

entangled in a very similar way.



Has anybody experienced similar fates or encountered them in their
work? I

want to say that I am at peace with my brother's fate, and (not but)
his

pain and fear touches my heart and makes me feel closer than ever to
him.

I have not heard before about this particular possibility of
tranference.

With gratitude to all of you for the many rich learnings I receive
via

this

forum.



Ulrike







Ulrike Danks

Systems and Family Constellations WA

10 Bavin St. Denmark WA 6333

Western Australia - 61 - (0)8 - 98481280



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