Thank you for sharing your experience, Jonine. With all your support I
find a special strenght.
Thank you
Chiara
Dr. Chiara H. Megighian-Zenati
104 Hawthorne Rd
Pittsburgh, PA 15238
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonine Lee <satoribreath@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 8:55 am
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] heart disease patients and heart
transplant patients
Dear Chiara, and Barbara,
that was a beautiful story...
a simple experience I had myself I share that might contribute
a couple of years ago I was asked by a male cousin to donate a kidney,
his mother had died of the disease when he was 16 I had years
ago offered so I said yes and began the process....as fears arose I
felt very alone
in dealing with them, they weren't huge this is a pretty common and
simple operation,
but I felt a sense of concern for whether I was honouring
my own body sufficiently and my mother was very fearful,
I didn't think at the time to specifically do a constellation...wish
that I had thought
but I did through a breathwork session ask my kidney how it felt about
going to my cousin,
he could be at times an angry short tempered man and my kidney
responded that it wasn't too happy,
could I ask him to do some work ! to deal with his anger before the
transplant. it didn't fancy being in
his body with all the anger going on.... I considered this
and then felt I needed to be willing to just give and let go...I asked
my kidney if it could just take
love and gentle ness to him ...the kidney is such a simple operation I
know different to the heart, but it went so smoothly
and I told him pre op to prepare to be more loving and gentle...he has
and continues to be incredibly healthy
needing less the normal medication etc etc.
After this discussion I am keen to discuss offering the work ....so
keen to hear more
----- Original Message -----
From: cmegighianzenati@xxxxxxx
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] heart disease patients and heart
transplant patients
dear constellation colleagues. I am going to discuss with an academic
psycologist a study with heart disease patients and heart transplant
patients who are not responding well to conventional therapy. In my
proposal I will offer to consider a Family Constellation approach. I
would appreciate if you had any experience to share or any good
reading
of work already done.
Thankfully
Chiara
Dr. Chiara H. Megighian-Zenati
104 Hawthorne Rd
Pittsburgh, PA 15238
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonine Lee <satoribreath@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] transference of symptoms between
siblings
I am reminded of the story Bert wrote or I came across in
FC writings,
about the doctor that visited a patient
and saw death standing at the end of the bed,,,,,not wanting his young
patient to die
he turned the bed around and the following week he died...
do we just keep moving the bed around.....until we gain the insight
that we
need in order to find a deeper or different level of acceptance...
Jonine Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ulrike Danks" <ulrikedanks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: [ConstellationTalk] transference of symptoms between
siblings
Dear all,
I was just browsing the internet in pursue of a particular FC topic,
I
came across a paragraph that surprised and touched me as it could
to
our family.
Here is the paragraph from a German interview of Stefan Hausner by
Marianne
Franke published on Stefan's website www.stephan-hausner.de:
'Ich habe auch immer wieder erlebt, wenn sich ein Geschwister aus
Verstrickung löst, es manchmal ein anderes Kind aus dieser Familie
plötzlich
schwerer hat oder sogar die Symptome übernimmt: Das findet man vor
dann, wenn die Eltern, aus welchem Grund auch immer, sich dem
ausgegrenzten
Thema nicht stellen können.'
english Translation:
'I have expereinced again and again, that when one sibling resolves an
entanglement for him/herself, sometimes another sibling of this family
suddenly has a hard time or even takes on the symptoms: You find that
particularily when for whatever reasons the parents are not able to
address
the excluded issue'
This appears to be the case in our family, where my sister (having had
several cancer scares) and myself ( having been through treatment and
recovery) have after much work and soul movements disentangled
from our father's/parents fate's and have a brother, who is now very
with cancer. Being familiar with the particular systemic
that
led to the female siblings dis-eases, I know that my brother is also
entangled in a very similar way.
Has anybody experienced similar fates or encountered them in their
want to say that I am at peace with my brother's fate, and (not but)
pain and fear touches my heart and makes me feel closer than ever to
I have not heard before about this particular possibility of
With gratitude to all of you for the many rich learnings I receive
this
forum.
Ulrike
Ulrike Danks
Systems and Family Constellations WA
10 Bavin St. Denmark WA 6333
Western Australia - 61 - (0)8 - 98481280
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