dear sandy. Thank you for your email. i can share your feelings and
emotion addressing the scientific community with this approach. what i
think we, family constellator in the scientific community, have the
possibility of doing, is to show them a different approach, not a
threat. It is not that with Family Constellation the whole transplant
and heart surgery community will loose their job, but, maybe, could
fine another tool to address certain issues that cannot be addressed
now.
And it also takes patience. I would like to share a personal experience
with you and with our constellation community. I am married to a heart
surgeon. A very good one. A scientist in all terms. Someone whose life
is devoted to developing new ways to reduce patients' risks. Someone
who at least once a day, while I am at the grocery store or maybe at
the playground with our children, has someone else's life in his hands.
If I think of it, I get chills. When I started my training in Family
Constellation, he told me he would have supported me but please not to
talk about it with him. Those who know me, know that i have quite a
hard time not to talk! But through the years seeing my enthusiasm and
my passion for Family Constellation is now asking questions up to the
point of saying (joking, but not too much) "...maybe you could do a
constellation to that patient of mine!" All this to say yes, it is
hard to make someone who has a scientific mindset to look at things in
a different perspective, but we only need to trust the power of the
knowing field and..go, tactfully... for it!!!!!
Love
Chiara
dr. Chiara H. Megighian-Zenati
104 Hawthorne Rd
Pittsburgh, PA 15238
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandra Batts <creativebreakthroughs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:38:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] heart disease patients and heart
transplant patients
I will be very interested in hearing about your discussion.
I worked in the transplant field for 2 years during which I was in
Family Constellation training. I was the one who spoke with the next
of kin and had to ask all the hard questions. And then I worked for
UNOS as an organ placement specialist. I told my boss about
constellation work and my theory on how it could possibly assist not
only the recipients but also the donor families. He told me if that
was the case we would all be out of a job and that would be great.
I've yet to be able to find anyone in the transplant field, doctors or
councelors that would even entertain the notion of this work...I still
believe that the work would be an amazing piece of the whole process
and I will continue to search for that one doctor, psychologist or
councelor that is willing to listen to me, experience the work and give
it a try.
Looking forward to reading about the results of your talk.
Namaste,
Sandy Batts
cmegighianzenati@xxxxxxx wrote:
dear constellation colleagues. I am going to discuss with an
academic
psycologist a study with heart disease patients and heart transplant
patients who are not responding well to conventional therapy. In my
proposal I will offer to consider a Family Constellation approach. I
would appreciate if you had any experience to share or any good reading
of work already done.
Thankfully
Chiara
Dr. Chiara H. Megighian-Zenati
104 Hawthorne Rd
Pittsburgh, PA 15238
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonine Lee <satoribreath@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [ConstellationTalk] transference of symptoms between
siblings
I am reminded of the story Bert wrote or I came across in
FC writings,
about the doctor that visited a patient
and saw death standing at the end of the bed,,,,,not wanting his young
patient to die
he turned the bed around and the following week he died...
do we just keep moving the bed around.....until we gain the insight
that we
need in order to find a deeper or different level of acceptance...
Jonine Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ulrike Danks" <ulrikedanks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: [ConstellationTalk] transference of symptoms between
siblings
Dear all,
I was just browsing the internet in pursue of a particular FC topic,
I
came across a paragraph that surprised and touched me as it could
to
our family.
Here is the paragraph from a German interview of Stefan Hausner by
Marianne
Franke published on Stefan's website www.stephan-hausner.de:
'Ich habe auch immer wieder erlebt, wenn sich ein Geschwister aus
Verstrickung löst, es manchmal ein anderes Kind aus dieser Familie
plötzlich
schwerer hat oder sogar die Symptome übernimmt: Das findet man vor
dann, wenn die Eltern, aus welchem Grund auch immer, sich dem
ausgegrenzten
Thema nicht stellen können.'
english Translation:
'I have expereinced again and again, that when one sibling resolves an
entanglement for him/herself, sometimes another sibling of this family
suddenly has a hard time or even takes on the symptoms: You find that
particularily when for whatever reasons the parents are not able to
address
the excluded issue'
This appears to be the case in our family, where my sister (having had
several cancer scares) and myself ( having been through treatment and
recovery) have after much work and soul movements disentangled
from our father's/parents fate's and have a brother, who is now very
with cancer. Being familiar with the particular systemic
that
led to the female siblings dis-eases, I know that my brother is also
entangled in a very similar way.
Has anybody experienced similar fates or encountered them in their
want to say that I am at peace with my brother's fate, and (not but)
pain and fear touches my heart and makes me feel closer than ever to
I have not heard before about this particular possibility of
With gratitude to all of you for the many rich learnings I receive
this
forum.
Ulrike
Ulrike Danks
Systems and Family Constellations WA
10 Bavin St. Denmark WA 6333
Western Australia - 61 - (0)8 - 98481280
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