Hello Friends,
It is interesting to note that although Fritz Perls decades ago clearly
recognised the top dog – under dog dynamics, so many of us still believe
that intentions (rational top dog) can stand alone and impact directly on a
much more desperate, scared and therefore resistant under dog. In my view
the potential benefit of working with the dynamics of intention is not in
taking those intentions seriously but to highlight deeper layers of
resistance.
Best wishes to all,
Robert
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Barbara Morgan theknowingfield@xxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Those of you who read Sarah Peyton's Bernried talk in issue 25 of the
Knowing Field and her interview in issue 24 or who know the work if Daniel
Siegel, will see that trauma is experienced via our right brain and our
body and a statement of intent would need to come from our left brain. I
therefore agree with what Anngwyn is saying.
If this person was abandoned by her mother for two years that's likely to
be a major trauma but you would need to be able to come alongside the
client and feel into that experience with her. How dissociated is she? The
way out of trauma is the same as the way it entered, via the body, through
the visceral expression of rage, terror and grief and if you haven't been
to those places personally yourself it is likely to be very difficult for
you as a facilitator to accompany her there. In addition to Sarah and
Daniel Siegel, the work of Peter Levine makes useful reading on this topic.
Best wishes
Barbara
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On 8 Jul 2014, at 10:42, "anngwyn anngwyn@xxxxxxx [ConstellationTalk]" <
ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Greetings from Zurich,
Many traumatized people are initially unable to clearly formulate their
intention in any linear verbal or other , so called rational
context..does this mean we should not agree to work with them because
they are unable clearly articulate their "intention" ? In a cross cultural
reality it does not seem either reasonable nor kind to insist that all
traumatized people who are suffering here in our world, and in serious
need of help , conform to some Eurocentric psychological model of initial
presentation...of clearly stated ... "intent".
Warm Regards
Anngwyn St. Just Ph.D.
www.acst-international .com
http://anngwyn.wisrville.org
In a message dated 07/07/14 12:49:08 US Mountain Standard Time,
ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
What is the client's formulated intent?
best regards
Heiki Eesmaa
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:03 PM, daniela.terrile@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[ConstellationTalk] <ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear all
I have a question on a mother issue, and I ask your kind advice on how
to better treat my client
My client (woman) has spent the first 2 years of her childhood far from
mammy (in Iran) because mother wanted to finish studies and had no time for
her. Family (mother and father and daughter were living in Belgium (Europe)
This was an accidental birth and the mother decided (against the wish of
her husband) to send the child back to Iran to her grand parents
Once back to Belgian (where the family used to live) the child had a
normal life, 2 more sisters in the family were born.
At the age of 12 mother started to become depressive and the young girl
was involved in the family life (helping 2 sisters, preparing cooking and
managing the house).
At the age of 16 mother told the child that she had 'fun' with her
father, like they were in a couple, and the mother was very allusive to the
fact that the young daughter was the new 'partner' of her husband and that
she had stolen her place (as if she was his wife)
This was not true of course, and my client was responsible and felt
obliged to take care of the 2 sisters and of the house because she was the
elder
The couple split and got divorce sooner after
Father came back to Iran, and daughter is now married (26) to a young
Iranian man: both are happily living in BXL. Daughter has a wonderful
relationship with her father and once a year she is going to visit him in
Iran
We have done 1 constellation in a group, and it was clear that
relationship between daughter and mother is not good. My client is hating
her mother, and she cannot bear her life's style. She is screaming all the
time, yelling to her and they have nothing in common.
How to start the reconciliation movement? How to feel where the energy is?
Can you pls advice?
Thank you
Daniela
Daniela.terrile@xxxxxxxxx
