De: Chris Millar <menssana@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Para: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Enviado: Miércoles, 24 de agosto, 2011 20:39:30
Asunto: Re: [ConstellationTalk] re: Culpability of Soldiers
Anne,
thank you, yes, that was exactly what I had in mind with my enquiry. Killing in
war is not murder. I have tried to convey this to the patient in question, that
as a conscript (trained as a hairdresser/barber in civilian life) any
culpability is carried by the nation that has required him to do its bidding. I
was hoping for a dissertation from Hellinger that said it more coherently. In
any case, I could feel a palpable sense of relief in his energy field,
demeanour, as my message sunk in. I think it hit home. I wanted to follow
through with a more authoritative source (Hellinger).
Chris
Dr Chris Millar
216 Humffray Street North
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AUSTRALIA
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On 25/08/2011, at 5:29 AM, Anne Beversdorf wrote:
The questions of soldiers' trauma is not exactly the same thing as Chris'
actual question. I too recall Bert saying that killing someone in battle does
not carry the same systemic issues as any other kind of killing. I can't
quote chapter and verse, but I clearly remember him saying it. He does NOT
say war isn't traumatic. In constellations, some of the deepest traumas,
which became systemic, were the loss of comrades--not simply the survivor's
guilt form, but the loss of persons with whom one was deeply emotionally
bonded.
So in discussion of a soldier's trauma, yes, there are many. The point I
think (?) Chris was addressing was the issue of "murder", and does a soldier
who kills in battle set up a systemic trauma of the type usual in other kinds
of murder. Hellinger clearly says no.
Interestingly, a recent study indicates that even in battles, most soldiers
shoot in the air--only a small percentage shoot to kill. The stats make it
sound like gunfights in movies, where a jillion shots are fired and miss....
The amount of ammunition used, the close quarters, etc, don't add up, and the
conclusion was most are just shooting wildly in the general direction of
"above their heads". That kind of war is pretty much a thing of the past tho.
Kind of a non-sequitur, but interesting anyway.
Anne Beversdorf
Counselling Astrologer
Western and Vedic
www.stariel.com
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