the truth i didn't understand your setup. and from what i read you are only routing, this means that you are directing the outputs to some busses but why don't you use auxiliary sends? the way i do it is by creating a bus for every effect like reverb, delay, chorus etc, and a bus for every subgroup like backing vocals, lead vocal , violins, brass, etc, and then insert a send for every effect you want to apply to a bus. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Jackson" <cs2007@xxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Bus troubles Hello all, I?ve created a project using producer 6.2 with 4 tracks of audio and 5 tracks of midi. I went in to the bus pane and setup the following, A. I have the master bus which is routed to the out of my Delta 10/10, B. Subgroup1?s, out as well as Subgroup2?sout are routed to vocal master C. Subgroup1?s delay and verb outs, are routed to effects send1 D. Subgroup2?s delay and verb out are routed to effect send1 E. Vocal master and effects send1 out?s are routed to master. In the track pane, I have tracks 1 and 2?s outs routed to subgroup1. I have track 3?s out routed to subgroup2. Whenever I patch an effect (verb or delay) in the bus pane in to the effects bin of the corresponding bus, (verb in the verb of subgroup1?s verb bus), I can?t hear the verb applied. I solo the verb bus but everything plays as if nothing?s soloed. I hope I?m making some since attempting to explain the problem. Any ideas on the matter would be appreciated. Thanks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.6/1086 - Release Date: 10/22/2007 7:57 PM ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq