[ddots-l] Re: DeEssing

  • From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2015 23:21:23 -0500

ah ok. sorry for assuming you were a beginner. (grin)

The side-chain for the Sonitus stuff shows up here in the list of sends when I add one to a track.

At 05:58 PM 12/9/2015, you wrote:

Hi Chris,

Yeah, been in the business for many years and know about de-essing.

I'm still not finding a sidechain eq option though for either the
regular Sonitus compressor or the Sonitus multiband.

I don't find any options for that in either of those.

I haven't had a chance to look at the vx 64 or the vc 64 for de-essers
yet but you are correct. I'd rather build my own.


Thanks,
Floyd...









On 12/9/15, Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Floyd.
>
> Really, the only reason I suggested building your own de-esser with
> EQ and side-chain compression is so you understand what a de-esser
> does and how it works. It's a useful exercise. Of course, if you come
> up with one you particularly like, be sure to save it as a track
> template to pull up later.
>
> If you try the one built into VC64 or maybe it's VX64 and don't care
> for it, Waves make the Renaissance De-Esser, Plugin Alliance sell the
> SPL De-esser which is really simple. I believe Fab Filter make one.
>
> About the only thing to be careful of is pushing a De-esser too hard,
> which makes the singer sound like they are lisping.
>
>
> At 09:17 AM 12/9/2015, you wrote:
>>Awesome Chris,
>>
>>So I've been using 8.851 for 2 or 3 months from 8.0 and didn't
>>realize we had access to
>>the Sonitus compressor sidechain. Just hadn't gotten there yet.
>>I'll indeed use it.
>>
>>thanks very much,
>>Floyd...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 12/8/15, Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Floyd, there's a De-esser built into either the VC64 (vocal channel)
>> > or maybe it's the Vintage channel? Anyway, one of those two plug-ins
>> > has a de-esser section.
>> >
>> > As for finding the offending frequency where the sibilance lives,
>> > that's where you boost a narrow band of EQ and sweep around until you
>> > find it. Seriously. Use your ears for that part. (grin)
>> >
>> > Rather than manually selecting and lowering S-sounds, why not build
>> > your own de-esser? Use the Sonitus compressor. Feed it's side-chain
>> > input with a heavily EQ'ed version of the vocal, EQ'ed with low and
>> > high pass filters set around your target frequency where the sibilance
>> > is.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> > At 06:29 PM 12/8/2015, you wrote:
>> >>Hey there,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Been using Sonar for a long time. I have yet to find a DeEsser on
>> >> board.
>> >>
>> >>Tired of doing that manually with volume and eq. Takes forever.
>> >>
>> >>Anyone out here use something within Sonar?
>> >>
>> >>And
>> >>
>> >>is there an accessible Sonar analyst tool to nail the offending
>> >>frequency between 4 and 10 k?
>> >>
>> >>I've actually found it a bit faster to push a vocal to SoundForge,
>> >>treat it and bring it back. But still very very labor intensive.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>thanks,
>> >>Floyd...
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