[ddots-l] Re: Finding a more affordable acoustic piano virtual instrument
- From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:28:42 +0100
Hi Cameron!!
You may want to try to get hold of a Yamaha P50-M piano module off Ebay. I
love the sound I get from it. It only does pianos, nothing else. Or, perhaps
you may want to take a look at this:
Bardstown Audio
http://www.bardstownaudio.com/insite/frames/CD-Bos.html
More information below. I personally, love the sound of this piano. If I
didn't have a Yamaha P50-M piano module then, I would take a look at this.
Bosendorfer Imperial Grand from Bardstown Audio
in 16-bit & 24-bit Giga 3.0 formats
and 24-bit EXS24/HALion/Kontakt/packaged formats
Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290
Bosendorfer Imperial Grand
16 bit Giga format $199.00
All 24 bit formats, $249.00
(US Currency)
The Bardstown Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290 very accurately captures the
exact sound of a real Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290. All other sampled
Bosendorfers that are available from other companies do not sound like a real
Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290 and sound very artificial and processed,
much like that of an electronic keyboard piano rather than a real piano. The
vast majority of professionals who have all sampled pianos still proclaim
the Bardstown Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290 to be by far the best
sounding sampled piano in the world even though it has been released over three
years ago, and they hardly ever use any of the other newer sampled pianos if
they use them at all because none of the others sound nearly as good.
This 9 1/2 foot concert grand piano is Bosendorfer's top of the line. The extra
lower bass strings give superior resonance to this world class concert grand
piano. There are four velocity layers of pedal up samples, four velocity layers
of pedal down samples, and release note off samples. The release "note
off" samples very nicely capture the ambient sound of the performance hall in
which this Bosendorfer Imperial was sample recorded. These are all actual
sample recorded velocity layers and without any filtering in order to produce
additional "fake" velocity layers, such has been done by other developers
who claim to have eight to sixteen layer sampled pianos.
Many other current sampled pianos claiming to have eight to sixteen velocity
layers have been produced by only sample recording two or three actual velocity
layers, and then applying low pass filtering onto those samples in order to
produce up to sixteen "fake" velocity layers, and also with only every second
or third note sample recorded, and with the rest of the notes being pitch
shifted from those notes. Sample editing methods used by these developers who
"streamline" their work include batch auto cropping of samples, and a great
deal of batch processing for many different processes. These sampling "shortcut"
methods are much quicker, easier, and with much less work involved in producing
a sampled instrument. The quality of sound of any sampled acoustic instrument,
which has been produced with these fast streamlined methods of low pass
filtering for producing multiple fake velocities, pitch shifting of notes, auto
cropping, and batch processing for various tasks, is unnatural and inferior.
Each and every note of the Bardstown Audio Bosendorfer Imperial was sample
recorded at all four velocity levels and articulations of pedal up, pedal down,
and release, and with no pitch shifting of any notes. In other words, each and
every note of the eighty-eight keys on this sampled Bosendorfer Imperial
has been sample recorded nine different ways, for a total of 792 recorded
samples. All sampled notes on "all" sampled instruments produced by Bardstown
Audio have been edited and tweaked by hand, one note at a time, and with no
quick streamlining methods or batch processing whatsoever.
The most advanced state of the art recording techniques and world class
recording equipment were used to sample record this Bosendorfer Imperial in a
world
class performance hall.
This sampled Bosendorfer Imperial is considered by the vast majority of people
to be the best sounding and most playable sampled piano in the world.
The 16 bit Giga version is 1.5 gigabytes.
The 24 bit native EXS24/HALion/Kontakt package is 2.4 gigabytes.
Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
Music And Audio Production
URL:
www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: Cameron
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:53 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Finding a more affordable acoustic piano virtual instrument
Hi all. I really want the Synthogy ivory virtual piano but don't have four
hundred dollars and won't for a while. Is there a high quality virtual
acoustic piano that's more affordable? I don't need 5.1 surround.
I'll be using it in Sonar 4/5 mostly.
Thanks,
Cameron.
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