[ddots-l] Re: Finding a more affordable acoustic piano virtual instrument

  • From: Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:48:10 -0500

Giga is accessible if you use it as a rewire plugin in Sonar. You do have to practically stand on your head to get it to work, but it is doable. If SFZ will work, that would probably be the better solution.

At 09:42 AM 9/25/2006, neville wrote:

I went to the website and checked it out and I must say that I'm really impressed with it. I have a question though, since giga is not accessible to us how can we use it? Could the sfz player be used in this case?
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From: <mailto:philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>Phil Muir
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:28 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Finding a more affordable acoustic piano virtual instrument


Hi Cameron!!

You may want to try to get hold of a Yamaha P50-M piano module off Ebay. I love the sound I get from it. It only does pianos, nothing else. Or, perhaps you may want to take a look at this:



Bardstown Audio

<http://www.bardstownaudio.com/insite/frames/CD-Bos.html>http://www.bardstownaudio.com/insite/frames/CD-Bos.html

More information below. I personally, love the sound of this piano. If I didn't have a Yamaha P50-M piano module then, I would take a look at this.

Bosendorfer Imperial Grand from Bardstown Audio

in 16-bit & 24-bit Giga 3.0 formats
and 24-bit EXS24/HALion/Kontakt/packaged formats

Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290

 Bosendorfer Imperial Grand

16 bit Giga format $199.00
All 24 bit formats, $249.00
(US Currency)
The Bardstown Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290 very accurately captures the exact sound of a real Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290. All other sampled
Bosendorfers that are available from other companies do not sound like a real Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290 and sound very artificial and processed,
much like that of an electronic keyboard piano rather than a real piano. The vast majority of professionals who have all sampled pianos still proclaim
the Bardstown Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290 to be by far the best sounding sampled piano in the world even though it has been released over three
years ago, and they hardly ever use any of the other newer sampled pianos if they use them at all because none of the others sound nearly as good.


This 9 1/2 foot concert grand piano is Bosendorfer's top of the line. The extra lower bass strings give superior resonance to this world class concert grand
piano. There are four velocity layers of pedal up samples, four velocity layers of pedal down samples, and release note off samples. The release "note
off" samples very nicely capture the ambient sound of the performance hall in which this Bosendorfer Imperial was sample recorded. These are all actual
sample recorded velocity layers and without any filtering in order to produce additional "fake" velocity layers, such has been done by other developers
who claim to have eight to sixteen layer sampled pianos.


Many other current sampled pianos claiming to have eight to sixteen velocity layers have been produced by only sample recording two or three actual velocity
layers, and then applying low pass filtering onto those samples in order to produce up to sixteen "fake" velocity layers, and also with only every second
or third note sample recorded, and with the rest of the notes being pitch shifted from those notes. Sample editing methods used by these developers who
"streamline" their work include batch auto cropping of samples, and a great deal of batch processing for many different processes. These sampling "shortcut"
methods are much quicker, easier, and with much less work involved in producing a sampled instrument. The quality of sound of any sampled acoustic instrument,
which has been produced with these fast streamlined methods of low pass filtering for producing multiple fake velocities, pitch shifting of notes, auto
cropping, and batch processing for various tasks, is unnatural and inferior.


Each and every note of the Bardstown Audio Bosendorfer Imperial was sample recorded at all four velocity levels and articulations of pedal up, pedal down,
and release, and with no pitch shifting of any notes. In other words, each and every note of the eighty-eight keys on this sampled Bosendorfer Imperial
has been sample recorded nine different ways, for a total of 792 recorded samples. All sampled notes on "all" sampled instruments produced by Bardstown
Audio have been edited and tweaked by hand, one note at a time, and with no quick streamlining methods or batch processing whatsoever.


The most advanced state of the art recording techniques and world class recording equipment were used to sample record this Bosendorfer Imperial in a world
class performance hall.


This sampled Bosendorfer Imperial is considered by the vast majority of people to be the best sounding and most playable sampled piano in the world.

The 16 bit Giga version is 1.5 gigabytes.
The 24 bit native EXS24/HALion/Kontakt package is 2.4 gigabytes.

Regards, Phil Muir

P J Muir Productions
Music And Audio Production
URL:
<http://www.philmuir.com/>www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:cameron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Cameron
To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:53 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Finding a more affordable acoustic piano virtual instrument

Hi all. I really want the Synthogy ivory virtual piano but don't have four hundred dollars and won't for a while. Is there a high quality virtual acoustic piano that's more affordable? I don't need 5.1 surround.



I'll be using it in Sonar 4/5 mostly.



Thanks,



Cameron.

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