[ddots-l] Re: Finding a more affordable acoustic piano virtual instrument

  • From: "Chi Kim" <ms22282@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:56:08 -0400

I use giga all the time.
At least I can load up and unload samples.

Chi
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: neville 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:42 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Finding a more affordable acoustic piano virtual 
instrument


  I went to the website and checked it out and I must say that I'm really 
impressed with it. I have a question though, since giga is not accessible to us 
how can we use it? Could the sfz player be used in this case? 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Phil Muir 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 7:28 AM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Finding a more affordable acoustic piano virtual 
instrument


    Hi Cameron!!

    You may want to try to get hold of a Yamaha P50-M piano module off Ebay.  I 
love the sound I get from it.  It only does pianos, nothing else.  Or, perhaps 
you may want to take a look at this:



    Bardstown Audio

    http://www.bardstownaudio.com/insite/frames/CD-Bos.html

    More information below.  I personally, love the sound of this piano.  If I 
didn't have a Yamaha P50-M piano module then, I would take a look at this.

    Bosendorfer Imperial Grand from Bardstown Audio

    in 16-bit & 24-bit Giga 3.0 formats
    and 24-bit EXS24/HALion/Kontakt/packaged formats

    Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290

     Bosendorfer Imperial Grand

    16 bit Giga format $199.00
    All 24 bit formats, $249.00
    (US Currency)
    The Bardstown Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290 very accurately captures 
the exact sound of a real Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290. All other 
sampled
    Bosendorfers that are available from other companies do not sound like a 
real Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290 and sound very artificial and 
processed,
    much like that of an electronic keyboard piano rather than a real piano. 
The vast majority of professionals who have all sampled pianos still proclaim
    the Bardstown Bosendorfer Imperial Grand Model 290 to be by far the best 
sounding sampled piano in the world even though it has been released over three
    years ago, and they hardly ever use any of the other newer sampled pianos 
if they use them at all because none of the others sound nearly as good.

    This 9 1/2 foot concert grand piano is Bosendorfer's top of the line. The 
extra lower bass strings give superior resonance to this world class concert 
grand
    piano. There are four velocity layers of pedal up samples, four velocity 
layers of pedal down samples, and release note off samples. The release "note
    off" samples very nicely capture the ambient sound of the performance hall 
in which this Bosendorfer Imperial was sample recorded. These are all actual
    sample recorded velocity layers and without any filtering in order to 
produce additional "fake" velocity layers, such has been done by other 
developers
    who claim to have eight to sixteen layer sampled pianos.

    Many other current sampled pianos claiming to have eight to sixteen 
velocity layers have been produced by only sample recording two or three actual 
velocity
    layers, and then applying low pass filtering onto those samples in order to 
produce up to sixteen "fake" velocity layers, and also with only every second
    or third note sample recorded, and with the rest of the notes being pitch 
shifted from those notes. Sample editing methods used by these developers who
    "streamline" their work include batch auto cropping of samples, and a great 
deal of batch processing for many different processes. These sampling "shortcut"
    methods are much quicker, easier, and with much less work involved in 
producing a sampled instrument. The quality of sound of any sampled acoustic 
instrument,
    which has been produced with these fast streamlined methods of low pass 
filtering for producing multiple fake velocities, pitch shifting of notes, auto
    cropping, and batch processing for various tasks, is unnatural and inferior.

    Each and every note of the Bardstown Audio Bosendorfer Imperial was sample 
recorded at all four velocity levels and articulations of pedal up, pedal down,
    and release, and with no pitch shifting of any notes. In other words, each 
and every note of the eighty-eight keys on this sampled Bosendorfer Imperial
    has been sample recorded nine different ways, for a total of 792 recorded 
samples. All sampled notes on "all" sampled instruments produced by Bardstown
    Audio have been edited and tweaked by hand, one note at a time, and with no 
quick streamlining methods or batch processing whatsoever.

    The most advanced state of the art recording techniques and world class 
recording equipment were used to sample record this Bosendorfer Imperial in a 
world
    class performance hall.

    This sampled Bosendorfer Imperial is considered by the vast majority of 
people to be the best sounding and most playable sampled piano in the world.

    The 16 bit Giga version is 1.5 gigabytes.
    The 24 bit native EXS24/HALion/Kontakt package is 2.4 gigabytes.

    Regards, Phil Muir

    P J Muir Productions
    Music And Audio Production
    URL:
    www.philmuir.com/

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Cameron 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 1:53 AM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Finding a more affordable acoustic piano virtual 
instrument


      Hi all.  I really want the Synthogy ivory virtual piano but don't have 
four hundred dollars and won't for a while.  Is there a high quality virtual 
acoustic piano that's more affordable?  I don't need 5.1 surround.



      I'll be using it in Sonar 4/5 mostly.



      Thanks,



      Cameron.

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