[ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?

  • From: Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:15:48 -0400

I totally agree with brian.


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From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:50 AM
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?

Working with a dedicated MIDI module, before getting in to softsynths, is definitely easier.

If you have CakeTalking 8 or later, then, during install, it should have asked you to specify the default template that you'd like to use when starting new projects. Unless you change it, the default template will be loaded, and new projects will start out with 16 MIDI tracks controlling a single instance of TTS-1. This is a very close emulation of what it would be like if you were using basic MIDI, with a Roland Sound Canvas module connected to your computer. With a synth/module like this, you can control the patch (instrument voice) very simply from the track properties dialog. To open track properties for the current track, just press the letter p.

I know that everyone is always eager to install the software, and immediately start loading softsynths and effects, but you need to master the fundamentals first, or you'll be hopelessly lost, not sure why you did what you did in order to get a synth to load. That's dangerous because this is, after all, a computer, things go wrong from time-to-time, and, if you're just following steps, instead of understanding what you're doing, then any time that something doesn't work exactly like you expect, your steps become useless, and you have no clue what to do in order to fix it.

Start with the default template. Learn how to select instrument voices for each track. Learn how to record. Learn how to perform basic editing such as how to erase a track, how to cut, copy, and paste material, how to quantize, etc. Learn how to perform basic mixing by adjusting the volume and pan controls for the tracks, and how to render your project to an audio file (WAV or MP3), that you can burn to CD or share with others.

Once you actually know how to record, edit, mix, and render a project, then you can try to make a better project by slowly adding in other elements, one at a time. Perhaps you might try learning how to record audio, and combine that with your MIDI composition. Next, you might try adding effects to some of the tracks. After that, you might still use mostly the TTS-1's MIDI tracks, but you might add another synth to the project in order to get a specialized sound that it produces well. Eventually, you might be using other synths entirely, no longer needing the TTS-1. Jumping in to that from the start, though, is a great way to get confused and frustrated.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:32 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?

Winy,

I don't know any specific information on accessing the RXP dialog. It sounds like you're trying to fly before you can walk.

Have you read the 4 chapters on MIDI hardware and software? That's very basic training for understanding MIDI.

If you do have a hardware synth connected to your computer it's a lot easier to work with to learn MIDI from the start.

Otherwise, start experimenting with the Cakewalk TTS synths to learn how to properly insert them onto your tracks.

Again the tutorial is very step-by-step on how to insert a synth.

There are other documents included with your installation that talk specifically on accessing the dialogs of the various effects and synths. You may find help there, as well.


Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Winy Kwany" <winy_kwany@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 07:39
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?


Hi,
I read the tutorial from Cake Talking, especially about "Supporting
Softsynths". Honestly, I am totally new in this MIDI world, so there're
still a lot of things that I don't understand.
Would you tell me how to access RXP dialogue, or any dialogue regarding to
the softsynths? I read that Cake Talking talked much about it--that we have
to be able to access the dialogue first before doing anything else. Would
you tell me how? What I have to do next after opening a project with MIDI
tracks?
Any help will be highly apreciated. Thanks a lot.
Winy.

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 3:31 AM
Winy,

Then you have a very good tutorial already in the
CakeTalking documentation,
on how to do this. I followed it step-by-step and was able
to insert the
synth and make it work.

If you haven't tried this yet, you should, since you'll
probably get it
figured out faster than waiting for answers on the list.

After you've gone through it, then if you have specific
questions, they will
be easier to answer, and you'll have better chance to
understand the
technicality of the answers.


Have fun!

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Winy Kwany" <winy_kwany@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:01
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?


I have Cake Talking.
Winy.

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> From: Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 2:02 AM
> Winy,
>
> Do you have CakeTalking or JSonar?
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Winy Kwany" <winy_kwany@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:35
> Subject: [ddots-l] Inserting softsyns, any help?
>
>
> Hi all,
> I am learning things related to MIDI world-- record
MIDI
> and MIDI
> sequencing. I try to insert softsyns in Sonar. Some
are
> accessible, but some
> are not. Would you guide me how to insert the
following
> softsyns:
> Le Rapture, Dimention Pro, Real Guitar, SFZ, and
Session
> Drummer2? I
> inserted them, but when I play with my MIDI
controller, the
> sounds don't
> come out. I have set the input and output correctly.
> Also, would you recommend softsyns or VST which are
> accessible for blind
> users?
> I look forward to hearing from you soon. Any help will
be
> highly apreciated.
> Many thanks.
> Winy.
>
>
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