Hi, Indeed, I have learnt the basic process before going into this MIDI world. I learnt to record, copy and paste, edit my recording and mix it, then transport it into MP3 and WAV, but all related to audio. I feel totally different when I learn about MIDI, especially when I heard about Softsynths and things related to MIDI that audio recording doesn't have. When I load a new project, the default is a project with 2 MIDI and 2 audio tracks. This is what I always use. I usually delete the MIDI tracks when I wanted to record with audio tracks. Now, I am totally new to MIDI world and I still try to find ways about what I can do for the basic ones. Thanks a lot for all suggestions that you all gave. I will begin from there. At least I have description about what I should do. Winy. --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help? > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 6:15 AM > I totally agree with brian. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:50 AM > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help? > > > Working with a dedicated MIDI module, before getting > in to softsynths, is definitely easier. > > > > If you have CakeTalking 8 or later, then, during > install, it should have asked you to specify the default > template that you'd like to use when starting new projects. > Unless you change it, the default template will be loaded, > and new projects will start out with 16 MIDI tracks > controlling a single instance of TTS-1. This is a very close > emulation of what it would be like if you were using basic > MIDI, with a Roland Sound Canvas module connected to your > computer. With a synth/module like this, you can control the > patch (instrument voice) very simply from the track > properties dialog. To open track properties for the current > track, just press the letter p. > > > > I know that everyone is always eager to install the > software, and immediately start loading softsynths and > effects, but you need to master the fundamentals first, or > you'll be hopelessly lost, not sure why you did what you did > in order to get a synth to load. That's dangerous because > this is, after all, a computer, things go wrong from > time-to-time, and, if you're just following steps, instead > of understanding what you're doing, then any time that > something doesn't work exactly like you expect, your steps > become useless, and you have no clue what to do in order to > fix it. > > > > Start with the default template. Learn how to select > instrument voices for each track. Learn how to record. Learn > how to perform basic editing such as how to erase a track, > how to cut, copy, and paste material, how to quantize, etc. > Learn how to perform basic mixing by adjusting the volume > and pan controls for the tracks, and how to render your > project to an audio file (WAV or MP3), that you can burn to > CD or share with others. > > > > Once you actually know how to record, edit, mix, and > render a project, then you can try to make a better project > by slowly adding in other elements, one at a time. Perhaps > you might try learning how to record audio, and combine that > with your MIDI composition. Next, you might try adding > effects to some of the tracks. After that, you might still > use mostly the TTS-1's MIDI tracks, but you might add > another synth to the project in order to get a specialized > sound that it produces well. Eventually, you might be using > other synths entirely, no longer needing the TTS-1. Jumping > in to that from the start, though, is a great way to get > confused and frustrated. > > > > Bryan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson > > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:32 AM > > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help? > > > > Winy, > > > > I don't know any specific information on accessing the > RXP dialog. It sounds like you're trying to fly before you > can walk. > > > > Have you read the 4 chapters on MIDI hardware and > software? That's very basic training for understanding > MIDI. > > > > If you do have a hardware synth connected to your > computer it's a lot easier to work with to learn MIDI from > the start. > > > > Otherwise, start experimenting with the Cakewalk TTS > synths to learn how to properly insert them onto your > tracks. > > > > Again the tutorial is very step-by-step on how to > insert a synth. > > > > There are other documents included with your > installation that talk specifically on accessing the dialogs > of the various effects and synths. You may find help there, > as well. > > > > > > Dave > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Winy Kwany" <winy_kwany@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 07:39 > > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help? > > > > > > Hi, > > I read the tutorial from Cake Talking, especially > about "Supporting > > Softsynths". Honestly, I am totally new in this MIDI > world, so there're > > still a lot of things that I don't understand. > > Would you tell me how to access RXP dialogue, or any > dialogue regarding to > > the softsynths? I read that Cake Talking talked much > about it--that we have > > to be able to access the dialogue first before doing > anything else. Would > > you tell me how? What I have to do next after opening > a project with MIDI > > tracks? > > Any help will be highly apreciated. Thanks a lot. > > Winy. > > > > --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > >> From: Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any > help? > >> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 3:31 AM > >> Winy, > >> > >> Then you have a very good tutorial already in the > >> CakeTalking documentation, > >> on how to do this. I followed it step-by-step and > was able > >> to insert the > >> synth and make it work. > >> > >> If you haven't tried this yet, you should, since > you'll > >> probably get it > >> figured out faster than waiting for answers on the > list. > >> > >> After you've gone through it, then if you have > specific > >> questions, they will > >> be easier to answer, and you'll have better chance > to > >> understand the > >> technicality of the answers. > >> > >> > >> Have fun! > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Winy Kwany" > <winy_kwany@xxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:01 > >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any > help? > >> > >> > >> I have Cake Talking. > >> Winy. > >> > >> --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > From: Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, > any help? > >> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 2:02 AM > >> > Winy, > >> > > >> > Do you have CakeTalking or JSonar? > >> > > >> > Dave > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Winy > Kwany" <winy_kwany@xxxxxxxxx> > >> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:35 > >> > Subject: [ddots-l] Inserting softsyns, any > help? > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi all, > >> > I am learning things related to MIDI world-- > record > >> MIDI > >> > and MIDI > >> > sequencing. I try to insert softsyns in > Sonar. Some > >> are > >> > accessible, but some > >> > are not. Would you guide me how to insert > the > >> following > >> > softsyns: > >> > Le Rapture, Dimention Pro, Real Guitar, SFZ, > and > >> Session > >> > Drummer2? I > >> > inserted them, but when I play with my MIDI > >> controller, the > >> > sounds don't > >> > come out. I have set the input and output > correctly. > >> > Also, would you recommend softsyns or VST > which are > >> > accessible for blind > >> > users? > >> > I look forward to hearing from you soon. 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