[ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?

  • From: Winy Kwany <winy_kwany@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 10:37:48 +0800 (SGT)

Hi,
Indeed, I have learnt the basic process before going into this MIDI world. I 
learnt to record, copy and paste, edit my recording and mix it, then transport 
it into MP3 and WAV, but all related to audio. I feel totally different when I 
learn about MIDI, especially when I heard about Softsynths and things related 
to MIDI that audio recording doesn't have. 
When I load a new project, the default is a project with 2 MIDI and 2 audio 
tracks. This is what I always use. I usually delete the MIDI tracks when I 
wanted to record with audio tracks. Now, I am totally new to MIDI world and I 
still try to find ways about what I can do for the basic ones.
Thanks a lot for all suggestions that you all gave. I will begin from there. At 
least I have description about what I should do.
Winy.

--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?
> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 6:15 AM
> I totally agree with brian.
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:50 AM
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?
> 
> > Working with a dedicated MIDI module, before getting
> in to softsynths, is definitely easier.
> > 
> > If you have CakeTalking 8 or later, then, during
> install, it should have asked you to specify the default
> template that you'd like to use when starting new projects.
> Unless you change it, the default template will be loaded,
> and new projects will start out with 16 MIDI tracks
> controlling a single instance of TTS-1. This is a very close
> emulation of what it would be like if you were using basic
> MIDI, with a Roland Sound Canvas module connected to your
> computer. With a synth/module like this, you can control the
> patch (instrument voice) very simply from the track
> properties dialog. To open track properties for the current
> track, just press the letter p.
> > 
> > I know that everyone is always eager to install the
> software, and immediately start loading softsynths and
> effects, but you need to master the fundamentals first, or
> you'll be hopelessly lost, not sure why you did what you did
> in order to get a synth to load. That's dangerous because
> this is, after all, a computer, things go wrong from
> time-to-time, and, if you're just following steps, instead
> of understanding what you're doing, then any time that
> something doesn't work exactly like you expect, your steps
> become useless, and you have no clue what to do in order to
> fix it.
> > 
> > Start with the default template. Learn how to select
> instrument voices for each track. Learn how to record. Learn
> how to perform basic editing such as how to erase a track,
> how to cut, copy, and paste material, how to quantize, etc.
> Learn how to perform basic mixing by adjusting the volume
> and pan controls for the tracks, and how to render your
> project to an audio file (WAV or MP3), that you can burn to
> CD or share with others.
> > 
> > Once you actually know how to record, edit, mix, and
> render a project, then you can try to make a better project
> by slowly adding in other elements, one at a time. Perhaps
> you might try learning how to record audio, and combine that
> with your MIDI composition. Next, you might try adding
> effects to some of the tracks. After that, you might still
> use mostly the TTS-1's MIDI tracks, but you might add
> another synth to the project in order to get a specialized
> sound that it produces well. Eventually, you might be using
> other synths entirely, no longer needing the TTS-1. Jumping
> in to that from the start, though, is a great way to get
> confused and frustrated.
> > 
> > Bryan
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:32 AM
> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?
> > 
> > Winy,
> > 
> > I don't know any specific information on accessing the
> RXP dialog. It sounds like you're trying to fly before you
> can walk.
> > 
> > Have you read the 4 chapters on MIDI hardware and
> software? That's very basic training for understanding
> MIDI.
> > 
> > If you do have a hardware synth connected to your
> computer it's a lot easier to work with to learn MIDI from
> the start.
> > 
> > Otherwise, start experimenting with the Cakewalk TTS
> synths to learn how to properly insert them onto your
> tracks.
> > 
> > Again the tutorial is very step-by-step on how to
> insert a synth.
> > 
> > There are other documents included with your
> installation that talk specifically on accessing the dialogs
> of the various effects and synths. You may find help there,
> as well.
> > 
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Winy Kwany" <winy_kwany@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 07:39
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any help?
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > I read the tutorial from Cake Talking, especially
> about "Supporting
> > Softsynths". Honestly, I am totally new in this MIDI
> world, so there're
> > still a lot of things that I don't understand.
> > Would you tell me how to access RXP dialogue, or any
> dialogue regarding to
> > the softsynths? I read that Cake Talking talked much
> about it--that we have
> > to be able to access the dialogue first before doing
> anything else. Would
> > you tell me how? What I have to do next after opening
> a project with MIDI
> > tracks?
> > Any help will be highly apreciated. Thanks a lot.
> > Winy.
> > 
> > --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any
> help?
> >> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 3:31 AM
> >> Winy,
> >> 
> >> Then you have a very good tutorial already in the
> >> CakeTalking documentation,
> >> on how to do this. I followed it step-by-step and
> was able
> >> to insert the
> >> synth and make it work.
> >> 
> >> If you haven't tried this yet, you should, since
> you'll
> >> probably get it
> >> figured out faster than waiting for answers on the
> list.
> >> 
> >> After you've gone through it, then if you have
> specific
> >> questions, they will
> >> be easier to answer, and you'll have better chance
> to
> >> understand the
> >> technicality of the answers.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Have fun!
> >> 
> >> Dave
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Winy Kwany"
> <winy_kwany@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 12:01
> >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns, any
> help?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have Cake Talking.
> >> Winy.
> >> 
> >> --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > From: Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Inserting softsyns,
> any help?
> >> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 2:02 AM
> >> > Winy,
> >> >
> >> > Do you have CakeTalking or JSonar?
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Winy
> Kwany" <winy_kwany@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 10:35
> >> > Subject: [ddots-l] Inserting softsyns, any
> help?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > I am learning things related to MIDI world--
> record
> >> MIDI
> >> > and MIDI
> >> > sequencing. I try to insert softsyns in
> Sonar. Some
> >> are
> >> > accessible, but some
> >> > are not. Would you guide me how to insert
> the
> >> following
> >> > softsyns:
> >> > Le Rapture, Dimention Pro, Real Guitar, SFZ,
> and
> >> Session
> >> > Drummer2? I
> >> > inserted them, but when I play with my MIDI
> >> controller, the
> >> > sounds don't
> >> > come out. I have set the input and output
> correctly.
> >> > Also, would you recommend softsyns or VST
> which are
> >> > accessible for blind
> >> > users?
> >> > I look forward to hearing from you soon. Any
> help will
> >> be
> >> > highly apreciated.
> >> > Many thanks.
> >> > Winy.
> >> >
> >> >
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