[ddots-l] Re: recording drums delta 44
- From: "Rod" <roddj12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:42:55 -0400
Thanks, cg. You see, I never anticipated doing drums anytime soon, and now I
finally had to do it. However, I must report though, my first shot at it was a
great success. I used only two mics, and the drummer records the other parts on
a separate take. I used the kick on my drum machine.
Rod
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Muir
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: recording drums delta 44
OK so, in theory, if you had a mixing concel wiht 4 direct outs then, you
could take the Kick, Snare, Left overhead and right overhead mikes in
individuallly viea the 4 inputs on your Delta 44.
Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
Music and audio production
URL: www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:03 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: recording drums delta 44
Phill, the delta 44 has 4 inputs and 4 outputs. Eight monos.
Rod
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Muir
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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: recording drums delta 44
Well, you want to bring in as many individual inputs as possible. How
many does your Delta 44 have?
Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
Music and audio production
URL: www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:06 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: recording drums delta 44
Thanks for the suggestions so far, but I am more looking on suggestions
on how I can go about making sure that everything is miced the right way. Since
I only have the ability to record out of one AUX send on the yamaha at a time,
and only one preamp channel, how would you envision setting this up. It seems
that I will only be able to capture only two mics at a time. The one out of the
yamaha, and the 1 channel preamp. If I capture 4 mics, as Phill suggested, they
will all mix together, because they will be coming out of that one Aux send on
the mixer. is that the way it should be? Sorry for the elementary questions,
this is my first time recording live drums.
Thanks
Rod
----- Original Message -----
From: kurt Streuber
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: recording drums delta 44
Well, I'd say try micing the kick, and maybe run the snare through
your preamp, since that's what stands out the most in a kit, at least usually.
I'd try the Ortf overhead pair on the kit, I use it a lot, and it produces
really good results. Basically you set up a stand, and center it so your high
tom is a bit left, mid is almost dead center, and low is right. Then find a T
bar at your music store, this allows uyou to use two mics on one stand. You
have the center section of the T bar parallel to the floor, or flat across, and
the two sides dangling down and away from the center so you get a shape that's
like a U with the side pieces pulled apart slightly at the top, or an open
trapezoid. You put two mics on the bar, and have them crossing over each
other, so both capsules point down and away from the stand, one pointing
towards left and one right. It's hard to explain, but you want the mics to be
laying on top of each other, in sort of a squished X shape, so the capsules are
about 6 inches apart, and at a 110 degree angle. I've probably confused you,
but if you cross your arms, and your hands are the ends of the mic, you want
your hands 6 inches apart, and at that angle. What you get is a mic for each
side of the kit, and it produces a very wide stereo image and a good balance.
The best way to do it is with a boom stand, set in front of the kick and up
pretty high, about 5 or 6 feet. The boom comes out over the drums and the mics
point down. Sorry for not being able to depict this very well.
Kurt
----- Original Message -----
From: Rod
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:51 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] recording drums delta 44
Hi, guys:
I have a delta 44 card, and I need to record a live drummer, any
tips on how I can go about doing this?
I have a Yamaha mg 12 channels mixer, and a one channel presonus
eureka preamp. I would appreciate any response please.
Rod
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