[ddots-l] Re: recording drums delta 44

  • From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:37:58 +0100

Well, you want to bring in as many individual inputs as possible.  How many 
does your Delta 44 have?

Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
Music and audio production
URL: www.philmuir.com/


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rod 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:06 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: recording drums delta 44


  Thanks for the suggestions so far, but I am more looking on suggestions on 
how I can go about making sure that everything is miced the right way. Since I 
only have the ability to record out of one AUX send on the yamaha at a time, 
and only one preamp channel, how would you envision setting this up.  It seems 
that I will only be able to capture only two mics at a time. The one out of the 
yamaha, and the 1 channel preamp. If I capture 4 mics, as Phill suggested, they 
will all mix together, because they will be coming out of that one Aux send on 
the mixer. is that the way it should be? Sorry for the elementary questions, 
this is my first time recording live drums.
  Thanks

  Rod 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: kurt Streuber 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:16 AM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: recording drums delta 44


    Well, I'd say try micing the kick, and maybe run the snare through your 
preamp, since that's what stands out the most in a kit, at least usually.  I'd 
try the Ortf overhead pair on the kit, I use it a lot, and it produces really 
good results.  Basically you set up a stand, and center it so your high tom is 
a bit left, mid is almost dead center, and low is right.  Then find a T bar at 
your music store, this allows uyou to use two mics on one stand.  You have the 
center section of the T bar parallel to the floor, or flat across, and the two 
sides dangling down and away from the center so you get a shape that's like a U 
with the side pieces pulled apart slightly at the top, or an open trapezoid.  
You put two mics on the bar, and have them crossing over each other, so both 
capsules point down and away from the stand, one pointing towards left and one 
right.  It's hard to explain, but you want the mics to be laying on top of each 
other, in sort of a squished X shape, so the capsules are about 6 inches apart, 
and at a 110 degree angle.  I've probably confused you, but if you cross your 
arms, and your hands are the ends of the mic, you want your hands 6 inches 
apart, and at that angle.  What you get is a mic for each side of the kit, and 
it produces a very wide stereo image and a good balance.  The best way to do it 
is with a boom stand, set in front of the kick and up pretty high, about 5 or 6 
feet.  The boom comes out over the drums and the mics point down.  Sorry for 
not being able to depict this very well.
    Kurt

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Rod 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:51 AM
      Subject: [ddots-l] recording drums delta 44


      Hi, guys:

      I have a delta 44 card, and I need to record a live drummer, any tips on 
how I can go about doing this?

         I have a Yamaha mg 12 channels mixer, and a one channel presonus 
eureka preamp. I would appreciate any response please.


      Rod 

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