[duxuser] Re: Margin Bell in Word
- From: "Foxworth, Ann" <Ann.Foxworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:29:25 -0500
Oh yes, I'm very aware of the problems caused by hard returns and hard
spaces. I am thinking more in terms of just being oriented on the page.
It's like the difference between that huge expanse of smooth flooring at
the bowling alley, and having a bowling rail to guide you to your lane.
ANN FOXWORTH, BRAILLE CONSULTANT
DARS DIVISION FOR BLIND SERVICES
CRISS COLE REHABILITATION CENTER
4800 N LAMAR BLVD
AUSTIN, TX 78757
PH: 512-377-0471
-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Dresser
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:27 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Margin Bell in Word
Ann,
Unfortunately, some of those formatting decisions (like putting hard
returns at the end of a line) cause more problems than they solve. It's
counter-intuitive to most people, but the last thing you want to do is
use a word processor as if it were a typewriter. When you do that, the
document seems to be properly formatted until you resize it, at which
point everything goes to hell in a hurry. And while we're at it, let's
not forget the nightmare that unwanted line breaks cause for braille
transcribers.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Foxworth, Ann" <Ann.Foxworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 15:52
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Margin Bell in Word
>
>
> Since several people have expressed wonder at my interest in having a
> "margin bell" in word, I'll explain my reason. When sighted people are
> entering text in a Word document, they are tracking their formatting
> visually. They make decisions based upon how the text is lining up. A
> person using jaws can do the same thing, but we have to stop typing in
> the text and press some jaws commands to make jaws tell us what column
> and what row we're on. I admit, it would be a luxury, but the most
> likely reason Duxbury developers decided to put that margin bell in
> Duxbury was for the blind users of the program, and I am very happy to
> have it.
>
>
> ANN FOXWORTH, BRAILLE CONSULTANT
> DARS DIVISION FOR BLIND SERVICES
> CRISS COLE REHABILITATION CENTER
> 4800 N LAMAR BLVD
> AUSTIN, TX 78757
> PH: 512-377-0471
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Susan Jolly
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:34 PM
> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxuser] Margin Bell in Word
>
>
>
> I'm not quite sure why you'd want a margin bell in Word but you can
use
> Word to produce a text file with line breaks at the end of each line
as
> follows.
> I don't know how to do this in Jaws but it should be possible.
>
> Set the font to Courier New or some other monospace font. Set the
left
> and right margins and/or font size so that a line will just hold
however
> many characters you want the maximum to be. Then type normally. Word
> will automatically wrap to the next line after spaces unless you hit
> Enter for a new paragraph. If you insert or delete any words later,
Word
> will re-wrap the lines in the changed paragraph as necessary.
>
> Then, when you save the file, do a "Save As" and select Plain Text
from
> the Save As Type pull-down list This will bring up a File Conversion
> box.
> Check the "Insert Line Breaks" option. This will put a line break
after
> every line in the file. Of course, once you've done this, you can't
> edit the file so it's a good idea to also save the original file as an
> ordinary Word document in case you want to edit it.
>
> HTH,
> SusanJ
>
>
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