Ann,I'm three years older than you, so we share similar experiences. One difference, however, is that I started learning Duxbury in the early 90s, when everything was done in DOS, and there was no direct method for entering braille. That forced me to learn how to make things happen by using the available codes. It probably didn't hurt that I was programming computers anyway, which involved doing the same thing for other applications. I don't know that my approach would work for everyone, but it has helped me to make sense of things that cause others to tear their hair out. That wasn't a problem for me, since I don't have much hair to lose.
Steve----- Original Message ----- From: "Foxworth, Ann" <Ann.Foxworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 09:55 Subject: [duxuser] Re: Margin Bell in Word
Very good explanation, Steve. So, my favorite way to create the braille training tools I use about 95% of the time, is directly in Duxbury using either direct braille feature or six-key entry, with that perkins bell set to ring about four spaces from the right margin. One thing that might explain my preferences is my age--58. I grew up with the concrete functioning of the Perkins, Hall and Silver Chief braille writers. And, when our agency gets new laptops in June, my good old keyboard will be hiding deep in a drawer so that I can be assured of having one that allows six-key entry. ANN FOXWORTH, BRAILLE CONSULTANT DARS DIVISION FOR BLIND SERVICES CRISS COLE REHABILITATION CENTER 4800 N LAMAR BLVD AUSTIN, TX 78757 PH: 512-377-0471 -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Dresser Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:50 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: Margin Bell in Word Susan, There's another issue that's been hinted at, but not explicitly stated. If you're really looking at the screen, you're getting constant visual feedback about how things line up. Those of us who don't actually see the screen have two choices: stop typing long enough to interrogate the screen reader (either through the controls provided for that purpose, or through a braille display), or have some kind of audible feedback when we approach the right edge of the screen. I'm quite lucky to have a braille display, but I have also learned that I can do a lot with formatting if I use the tools I have in Word. Unfortunately, though, doing that involves a steep learning curve because most people don't know much about Word, or word processors in general, mostly because they can just buzz around the screen with a mouse and push the right buttons, or maybe just use the brute force approach to get things to look the way they want them to. I don't mean any of this as a complaint, but rather as an attempt to analyze and explain differences between the methods blind people use to get results from their computers and what their sighted peers do to accomplish the same tasks. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Jolly" <easjolly@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 16:11 Subject: [duxuser] Re: Margin Bell in WordOK, great. Thanks for answering. I don't consider this so much a canofworms but trying to communicate better so that we can help each otheroutbetter. I understand about the table that looked "awful." I see now where Iwashaving my conceptual problem. When I read things on the computerscreen,whether in Word or on a webpage, I don't think in terms of pages butmorein terms of a fluid window or virtual page which is not fixed in size asapiece of paper is. So if I were looking at a table and it didn't fitrightin the window, I would typically just resize the window. However, ifyourgoal is to produce a print table that looks not awful on a real pieceofpaper of a certain size, rather than a virtual one, then of course youhave to know how it is oriented and laid out. If I were forced to produce tables in Word on a frequent basis, I'd probably spend the time to understand exactly what the AutoFit and AutoFormat options do. Thanks again, SusanJ * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * ** * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *
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