Jean Menzies
From: Caryn Navy <caryn@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: January 29, 2021 12:43 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; jean.e.menzies@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [duxuser] Re: Translated Braille file problem with lateest JAWS
update
Hello again Jean.
I may be misunderstanding you, but I want to make sure that I was clear
about the settings. The two settings that I listed are the ones that cause
the problem, not the settings I recommend. If you have both of the settings
that I listed, then make a change. For example, in Global ->
Internationalization, switch from Prefer Unicode braille patterns to Prefer
local/national encoding.
If you already had JAWS 2021 on your system and just updated to a newer
release, there would be no reason for DBT to prompt you to install the JAWS
script files, as they would already have been installed. To make sure you
are using the JAWS script files for DBT, press Insert+Q in DBT. If JAWS
says, "dbtw settings are loaded," that means the JAWS script files for DBT
are running.
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Caryn
On 1/29/2021 1:45 PM, jean.e.menzies@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jean.e.menzies@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Caryn,
I doublechecked, and those are the settings I have. So this is not the fix.
Ug.
After installing this Jaws update, I didn't get a prompt from DBT to install
the latest Jaws scripts, etc. Can you remind me where to check to see if the
Jaws scripts are even being loaded? I have forgotten how to manually install
scripts.
Jean
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Caryn Navy
Sent: January 28, 2021 10:51 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ;
jean.e.menzies@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jean.e.menzies@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Translated Braille file problem with lateest JAWS
update
Hello Jean and all.
This problem sounds like what happens with JAWS when you have two particular
settings in DBT's Global Menu. Here are the Global settings in DBT which
when combined throw JAWS off course:
1. In Global -> Internationalization choose Prefer Unicode braille patterns,
and
2. in Global -> Default views set Default font for braille documents to
Braille or SimBraille.
With those two settings combined, JAWS chooses the wrong characters to speak
and show on the braille display. It's interesting that this same combination
of DBT settings works fine with other screen readers.
All the best,
Caryn
If you switch in Global -> Internationalization from Prefer Unicode braille
patterns to Prefer Local/national encoding, the problem is eliminated.
Alternatively, if you switch the default font for braille documents in
Global -> Default Views from Braille or SimBraille to Print, the problem is
eliminated as well.
All the best,
Caryn
On 1/28/2021 9:12 PM, jean.e.menzies@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jean.e.menzies@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Further information. Six-key entry in a Braille file is also really messed
up. For example, pressing "l" for dot 6, I hear "sh sign". "k" for dot 5
says "ed sign". Etc.
To explain the results in a translated file, if I type the word "test" and
translate, I get "dots 3-6 space space dots 1-3-4". The second hyphen does
not appear on the display, but Jaws speaks it.
Tomorrow I will reinstall an older version of Jaws and see if it fixes this.
Jean
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