Hi Jean, When the exact translation is used for the TN symbols, DBT hasn't been programmed to know that's the tn symbol, it just sees it as other characters. Bruce is correct in that as far as DBT is concerned, "this" is no longer a whole word. You've come across the danger of using exact translation when it is connected to any other text. Here are three options for getting the correct translation. &@This is a test.&@ [[*q~,'*]]This is a test.[[*q~,'*]] [[*tns*]]This is a test.[[*tne*]] For the time being, DBT will recognize the old &@ code for the TN symbols when used in a doc file. I wouldn't recommend this in the long run if there's any chance the doc file might be used in later years. I don't know one way or the other, but the time may come when DBT will not recognize that type of coding from a doc file. The [[*q~,'*]] code can be used to force your symbols. This how the TN symbols are handled in the Transcriber's Note style. I noticed there are now [tns] (transcriber's note start) and [tne] (transcriber's note end) codes. This appears in the 10.7 documentation, but I have no idea if it's in earlier versions. The documentation says to check the table usage guide to see if it works for a particular language, because the code isn't recognized across the board. In looking at the English table usage guide the codes aren't included, but I tried it anyway, and it does work correctly. Susan -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:48 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: exact translation Hi Bruce, I understand your explanation if you were simply typing the apostrophe and comma as normal characters, but shouldn't exact translation take care of that? The word "this" is not coded with exact translation, only the TN symbol characters. . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <bruce@xxxxxxxx> To: "DBT list" <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: [duxuser] Re: exact translation Because DBT sees the apostrophe before this and assumes it must be part of a word, not the whole word this. Since you can't use "this" as part of the word, it contracts as you've seen it. Bruce On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Jean Menzies wrote: > I discovered something puzzling today. Using the English de BANA Textbook > template. I have a transcriber note that starts with the word "this". If I > use the transcriber note style, it translates correctly with the 6 3 > symbol, the capital sign and the th sign for the word this. However, in > this case, the TN doesn't end until after a table key, so I used the Exact > Translation for the comma and apostrophe of the TN symbol, then the > capitalized word This. . When I do that, DBT insists on only contracting > the "th" in this. My solution was to include a comma and question mark as > exact translation which created the capital "th". > > Why might this be happening? > > Jean > > > Jean > > "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's > troublesome." > --Isaac Asimov > > * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3932 (20090312) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *