[duxuser] Re: reply
- From: "Lisa Yayla" <lisa.yayla@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:56:38 +0100
Hi,
I really enjoyed reading John's letter. The discussion about which tool is
best is perhaps not the issue, in a way, because what is, I think, the
most important is how the tool is used. I use Qiktac, svell,Tiger, mixed
medium, Duxbury etc and if I don't design the graphic well the result will
be a big clutter. Design is important in setting up text and it is
important for the graphic.
George, sorry, am straying off topic. Hope you will forgive.
Regards,
Lisa
duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx skriver:
>Hi John or anyone else that would care to comment. We have a tactile
>image enhancer (junior), which is broken. Before we purchase another, is
>it possible to emboss tactile drawings on an enabling technologies ET
>Brailler using the TDG Pro software. Any information will be appreciated.
>
>Tom Whalen
>Mesa State College
>Grand Junction, CO
>970-248-1307
>
>John Panarese <tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>As far as opinions go, you are absolutely correct. Everyone has an
>opinion and that's the way it should be. I don't necessarily find the
>reply
>from David an "attack" as it was a response to one on a product,
>regardless
>of it being opinion based, but that, not surprisingly, is strictly...my
>opinion.
>
>I do want to state my opinion on tactile graphics as it d oes relate to
>the two below messages. It might be straying off topic to the Duxbury
>list,
>but its, indirectly related just the same.
>
>Tactile representations of diagrams, pictures, equations or anything
>else are probably the most underrated aspect of blindness in an education
>environment. I certainly wasn't exposed to this as much as I wish when I
>was
>in high school and grade school, and I don't think, as with just about all
>the other blindness technologies, blind students fully appreciate this
>fact.
>It literally opens a new world to one who cannot see and gives one a
>perspective that cannot be stressed enough. What Duxbury, Repro-Tronics,
>and any embosser maker has done towards this end simply cannot be thanked
>enough by the blind.
>
>With that said, I will say this in terms of my experiences with
>embossed images. I am speaking about embossed representations on Braille
>paper and not any done on the thermo form paper. Sometimes, more can be
>too
>much. What I mean is this. It is like a sighted person trying to look at a
>picture or TV show in which too much color or glare is present or any
>person
>at a concert in which the music is so loud, the singer cannot be clearly
>heard over the instruments. The concept of four levels of dots and more
>dots per inch is fine and well, but I have been able to compare such
>complex
>images done on various embossers. Frankly, I have found myself more
>confused, bewildered and concerned than impressed by the Tiger products.
>
>There are two basic elements I am speaking of here. First, as I said,
>more can be too much. Simply, all the dots and levels did little more than
>make me feel like I was trying to listen to someone speaking to me from
>across the table at a trade show in which you have hundreds of people
>present in the room and dozens of speech products and presentations going
>on
>around me at once. I just couldn't get a grasp of what I was fe eling,
>even
>when it was pointed out to me what it was supposed to be.
>
>Secondly, the effects on the paper itself was easily noted. I would
>seriously question both the dot degradation and paper integrity with so
>much
>puncturing occurring. Couple this with a school environment with a kid
>who,
>let's say, might not treat the images all that carefully, and I could find
>myself predicting the paper literally falling apart in a matter of time
>
>Again, I am speaking from my own personal experiences and, of course,
>from my own opinions. Some may debate me, and that is fine. I just will
>take my 17 dots per inch and graphics done on an Index embosser or
>Enabling
>embosser if it was me having to either recommend or advocate for a blind
>student. I mean absolutely no offense to the manufacturer of Tiger
>products
>nor to those who stand behind them. I'm also not looking for any reactions
>that will cause this list to go any more off topic, as I apologize to any
>who might feel my post has already done this.
>
>Take Care
>
>
>
>John D. Panarese
>Managing Director
>Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
>9 Nolan Court
>Hauppauge, NY 11788
>Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479
>Email, tvii@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com
Lisa Yayla
Huseby Kompetansesenter
Oslo Norway
lisa.yayla@xxxxxxxxxx
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