Ha haaaaaa,
Thanks Jon....... We are all just sheep, and need the shepherd ......... 😂
Yep, that clarifies everything, so the take away message from this is: Nick,
stop fiddling! 😃 ........
Cheers,
Tony Bell
Www.hastingsrock.co.uk
On 17 Apr 2018, at 20:13, jon bird <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
ONE day - I go away for ONE day and Nick goes around making wild assertions
like "the server went tits up", the server did not go tits up, El President
turned his machine on and off again, on his own initiative (although to be
fair, this is standard IT diagnostic approach) which resulted in some network
drives not restoring properly.
Anyway, it's possible I may have confused myself and possibly everyone else
in the process with my terminology here so let me try and clarify things.
What I was referring to as the "test stream" is something we've traditionally
done on the run up to the broadcast which is leave the studio PC in
automation, executing a playlist for our consumption only as a test to make
sure things are working properly. This is the link I posted on Sunday:
http://streaming03.zfast.co.uk:8086/aac
which is just connected to the desk.
The other one, which I think I coined the phrase as "placeholder" is the
promo audio which is linked to from the website and which (in theory) all the
other listening platforms point to. Which is just on a short loop and I think
is now being referred to as the "test stream".
I'll also mention now, because it has relevance to what I'm about to say that
based on the approach we took last broadcast, we generate two audio streams -
a low bit rate AAC stream (which is basically the link I posted above) and is
ideal for mobile devices and a higher bitrate, more standard MP3 one.
One of the issues is that the "placeholder" stream isn't operating quite how
I originally envisaged it to be in that my original assumption was that this
would be just a single MP3 audio file hosted on the website such that when
someone clicks on it (or a listening platform connects), it simply plays it
from beginning to end. However that's not how Nick wanted to do it in that he
wanted to keep adding bits to it and as such is now running as a looped
playlist in Playout, running on Nick's own PC. So anyone listening to it will
pick it up from wherever it happens to be in the playlist. The problem with
this approach is that it requires bandwidth from our streaming server and
therefore is currently "stealing" the MP3 stream - which is why at this point
we're limited to just using the AAC one for our "test stream". We don't have
the bandwidth to run another MP3 one whilst this is going on.
Finally, the problem Nick was having with new audio not showing up in the
stream is I think that he's using the Playout system in an odd way to operate
this - it's effectively a short playlist continually looping and he's then
bolting new tracks on the end, without restarting it. I suspect it's getting
confused but I've suggested he restart it each time (which shouldn't
interrupt the audio) but which should reset everything into a usable state.
I hope that clarifies just about everything and sorry for the confusion.
In article <9C73E40A47E64002B7EA49B786EAC018@Sarahlaptop>,
sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes
Tunein not working yet.
Sarah
From: Nick Apps
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:01 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Recond its time to public now about our test stream and how to listen
in .
Nick.
From: Tony Bell
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:43 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
J
From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nick Apps
Sent: 17 April 2018 14:36
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
WE ARE BACK ON !
jon text me how to fix it .
nick.
From: Nick Apps
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:41 AM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Yes the problem is this end . I've been away and come back to find
caldron, which holds the audio disk has gone tits up .
play out seemed to latch on to something from a few days ago with 6
second pauses . but now nothing !
i have text Jon for a solution but he's away for for a couple of days.
however Tune in is a diffent problem at their end it seems ?.
nick.
From: sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:24 AM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
The Streema one still seems to be playing an old test stream and loads
of
pauses as of this morning.
When it worked on Sunday it seemed really good.
When I click on Jon's link to the test stream all my computer wants to
do is
download aac (whatever that is), which of course fails. Am I doing
something wrong?
I am assuming when we get this all sorted we will start
publicising.....just
wondering when we can do that?
Sarah
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Bell
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:56 AM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Morning all,
Listening in this morning to this stream below, so far, sounds good, no
pauses, everything flows, interesting choice of tunes! (Is this
playlisted
Nick, or random from Music database?)
Out of interest, how long to do we leave the Tune-in stream to "sync
up"
before we get in touch with them?
Rgds
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 16 April 2018 22:44
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Been checking out the test stream. Loads of silence now between clips
of
audio..... was that intentional?
I thought it sounded better with clips running close together with no
long
pregnant pauses between. Doesn't flow now.
Sarah
-----Original Message-----
From: jon bird
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:10 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] test stream
I see Nick has got everything wired up then and we have a working test
stream which is at...
http://streaming03.zfast.co.uk:8086/aac
this *isn't* the one going out on the website, it's purely for our
internal
consumption and of course will be subject to interruptions as we fiddle
around with stuff.
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