Yes until we switch over at the weekend . i cant get some stuff to play . so i
refer to my preious email under this heading.
Nick.
From: jon bird
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:13 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
On 18 April 2018 21:12:53 BST, jon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Have to admit I'm still pondering the best way to handle this promotional
stream especially in light of TuneIn's incompetence. Either way I think it
needs to tune outside of the studio environment.
Nick are the stream contents now finished?
On 18 April 2018 20:30:04 BST, sarah <sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I still need to refresh myself of everything Nick so I need a bit if a
practise when I get back.
Howard Martin is asking when stream will go live. He wants to hear his ad
amongst it whish is pretty reasonable and wants to advertise the stream.
Sarah
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------
From: Nick Apps <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 18/04/2018 17:40 (GMT+00:00)
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
1st all must apoligise to Jon . it is in fact its my computer that keeps
playing up ! playing wrong stuff with gaps all today again .
works again now as have reset. .
for this reason and because i can use my computer again for playlisting
etc. will be best to send the stream from our main streaming computer and this
will be how it will be when we come on air. so then we can tell tune in peeps
to reset the stream to how it will be on air .
Sugest we switch over sat eve or sunday as got peeps practising before
that . Jon can do this remotley from home .
so simon best to contact tune in after that.
Nick,
From: sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:11 AM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Thank you Jon.
I understand...... I think.
Sarah
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Bell
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:06 AM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Ha haaaaaa,
Thanks Jon....... We are all just sheep, and need the shepherd ......... 😂
Yep, that clarifies everything, so the take away message from this is:
Nick,
stop fiddling! 😃 ........
Cheers,
Tony Bell
Www.hastingsrock.co.uk
> On 17 Apr 2018, at 20:13, jon bird <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> ONE day - I go away for ONE day and Nick goes around making wild
> assertions like "the server went tits up", the server did not go tits up,
> El President turned his machine on and off again, on his own initiative
> (although to be fair, this is standard IT diagnostic approach) which
> resulted in some network drives not restoring properly.
>
> Anyway, it's possible I may have confused myself and possibly everyone
> else in the process with my terminology here so let me try and clarify
> things. What I was referring to as the "test stream" is something we've
> traditionally done on the run up to the broadcast which is leave the
> studio PC in automation, executing a playlist for our consumption only as
> a test to make sure things are working properly. This is the link I
posted
> on Sunday:
>
> >http://streaming03.zfast.co.uk:8086/aac
>
> which is just connected to the desk.
>
> The other one, which I think I coined the phrase as "placeholder" is the
> promo audio which is linked to from the website and which (in theory) all
> the other listening platforms point to. Which is just on a short loop and
> I think is now being referred to as the "test stream".
>
> I'll also mention now, because it has relevance to what I'm about to say
> that based on the approach we took last broadcast, we generate two audio
> streams - a low bit rate AAC stream (which is basically the link I posted
> above) and is ideal for mobile devices and a higher bitrate, more
standard
> MP3 one.
>
> One of the issues is that the "placeholder" stream isn't operating quite
> how I originally envisaged it to be in that my original assumption was
> that this would be just a single MP3 audio file hosted on the website
such
> that when someone clicks on it (or a listening platform connects), it
> simply plays it from beginning to end. However that's not how Nick wanted
> to do it in that he wanted to keep adding bits to it and as such is now
> running as a looped playlist in Playout, running on Nick's own PC. So
> anyone listening to it will pick it up from wherever it happens to be in
> the playlist. The problem with this approach is that it requires
bandwidth
> from our streaming server and therefore is currently "stealing" the MP3
> stream - which is why at this point we're limited to just using the AAC
> one for our "test stream". We don't have the bandwidth to run another MP3
> one whilst this is going on.
>
> Finally, the problem Nick was having with new audio not showing up in the
> stream is I think that he's using the Playout system in an odd way to
> operate this - it's effectively a short playlist continually looping and
> he's then bolting new tracks on the end, without restarting it. I suspect
> it's getting confused but I've suggested he restart it each time (which
> shouldn't interrupt the audio) but which should reset everything into a
> usable state.
>
> I hope that clarifies just about everything and sorry for the confusion.
>
>
> In article <9C73E40A47E64002B7EA49B786EAC018@Sarahlaptop>,
> sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes
>> Tunein not working yet.
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>> From: Nick Apps
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:01 PM
>> To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
>>
>> Recond its time to public now about our test stream and how to listen
>> in .
>>
>> Nick.
>>
>> From: Tony Bell
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:43 PM
>> To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
>>
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Nick Apps
>> Sent: 17 April 2018 14:36
>> To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
>>
>>
>>
>> WE ARE BACK ON !
>>
>>
>>
>> jon text me how to fix it .
>>
>>
>>
>> nick.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Nick Apps
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:41 AM
>>
>> To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes the problem is this end . I've been away and come back to find
>> caldron, which holds the audio disk has gone tits up .
>>
>>
>>
>> play out seemed to latch on to something from a few days ago with 6
>> second pauses . but now nothing !
>>
>>
>>
>> i have text Jon for a solution but he's away for for a couple of days.
>>
>>
>>
>> however Tune in is a diffent problem at their end it seems ?.
>>
>>
>>
>> nick.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:24 AM
>>
>> To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
>>
>>
>>
>> The Streema one still seems to be playing an old test stream and loads
>> of
>> pauses as of this morning.
>>
>> When it worked on Sunday it seemed really good.
>>
>> When I click on Jon's link to the test stream all my computer wants to
>> do is
>> download aac (whatever that is), which of course fails. Am I doing
>> something wrong?
>>
>> I am assuming when we get this all sorted we will start
>> publicising.....just
>> wondering when we can do that?
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tony Bell
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:56 AM
>> To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
>>
>> Morning all,
>>
>> Listening in this morning to this stream below, so far, sounds good, no
>> pauses, everything flows, interesting choice of tunes! (Is this
>> playlisted
>> Nick, or random from Music database?)
>>
>> Out of interest, how long to do we leave the Tune-in stream to "sync
>> up"
>> before we get in touch with them?
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: 16 April 2018 22:44
>> To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
>>
>> Been checking out the test stream. Loads of silence now between clips
>> of
>> audio..... was that intentional?
>>
>> I thought it sounded better with clips running close together with no
>> long
>> pregnant pauses between. Doesn't flow now.
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jon bird
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:10 PM
>> To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [hrock] test stream
>>
>> I see Nick has got everything wired up then and we have a working test
>> stream which is at...
>>
>> http://streaming03.zfast.co.uk:8086/aac
>>
>> this *isn't* the one going out on the website, it's purely for our
>> internal
>> consumption and of course will be subject to interruptions as we fiddle
>> around with stuff.
>>
>> --
>> == jon bird - software engineer
>> == <reply to address _may_ be invalid, real mail below> == <reduce rsi,
>> stop
>> using the shift key> == posted as: news 'at' onastick 'dot' clara.co.uk
>
> --
> == jon bird - software engineer
> == <reply to address _may_ be invalid, real mail below>
> == <reduce rsi, stop using the shift key>
> == posted as: news 'at' onastick 'dot' clara.co.uk
>
>
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