1st all must apoligise to Jon . it is in fact its my computer that keeps
playing up ! playing wrong stuff with gaps all today again .
works again now as have reset. .
for this reason and because i can use my computer again for playlisting etc.
will be best to send the stream from our main streaming computer and this will
be how it will be when we come on air. so then we can tell tune in peeps to
reset the stream to how it will be on air .
Sugest we switch over sat eve or sunday as got peeps practising before that .
Jon can do this remotley from home .
so simon best to contact tune in after that.
Nick,
From: sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:11 AM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Thank you Jon.
I understand...... I think.
Sarah
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Bell
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:06 AM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Ha haaaaaa,
Thanks Jon....... We are all just sheep, and need the shepherd ......... 😂
Yep, that clarifies everything, so the take away message from this is: Nick,
stop fiddling! 😃 ........
Cheers,
Tony Bell
Www.hastingsrock.co.uk
On 17 Apr 2018, at 20:13, jon bird <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
ONE day - I go away for ONE day and Nick goes around making wild
assertions like "the server went tits up", the server did not go tits up,
El President turned his machine on and off again, on his own initiative
(although to be fair, this is standard IT diagnostic approach) which
resulted in some network drives not restoring properly.
Anyway, it's possible I may have confused myself and possibly everyone
else in the process with my terminology here so let me try and clarify
things. What I was referring to as the "test stream" is something we've
traditionally done on the run up to the broadcast which is leave the
studio PC in automation, executing a playlist for our consumption only as
a test to make sure things are working properly. This is the link I posted
on Sunday:
http://streaming03.zfast.co.uk:8086/aac
which is just connected to the desk.
The other one, which I think I coined the phrase as "placeholder" is the
promo audio which is linked to from the website and which (in theory) all
the other listening platforms point to. Which is just on a short loop and
I think is now being referred to as the "test stream".
I'll also mention now, because it has relevance to what I'm about to say
that based on the approach we took last broadcast, we generate two audio
streams - a low bit rate AAC stream (which is basically the link I posted
above) and is ideal for mobile devices and a higher bitrate, more standard
MP3 one.
One of the issues is that the "placeholder" stream isn't operating quite
how I originally envisaged it to be in that my original assumption was
that this would be just a single MP3 audio file hosted on the website such
that when someone clicks on it (or a listening platform connects), it
simply plays it from beginning to end. However that's not how Nick wanted
to do it in that he wanted to keep adding bits to it and as such is now
running as a looped playlist in Playout, running on Nick's own PC. So
anyone listening to it will pick it up from wherever it happens to be in
the playlist. The problem with this approach is that it requires bandwidth
from our streaming server and therefore is currently "stealing" the MP3
stream - which is why at this point we're limited to just using the AAC
one for our "test stream". We don't have the bandwidth to run another MP3
one whilst this is going on.
Finally, the problem Nick was having with new audio not showing up in the
stream is I think that he's using the Playout system in an odd way to
operate this - it's effectively a short playlist continually looping and
he's then bolting new tracks on the end, without restarting it. I suspect
it's getting confused but I've suggested he restart it each time (which
shouldn't interrupt the audio) but which should reset everything into a
usable state.
I hope that clarifies just about everything and sorry for the confusion.
In article <9C73E40A47E64002B7EA49B786EAC018@Sarahlaptop>,
sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes
Tunein not working yet.
Sarah
From: Nick Apps
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:01 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Recond its time to public now about our test stream and how to listen
in .
Nick.
From: Tony Bell
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:43 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
J
From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nick Apps
Sent: 17 April 2018 14:36
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
WE ARE BACK ON !
jon text me how to fix it .
nick.
From: Nick Apps
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:41 AM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Yes the problem is this end . I've been away and come back to find
caldron, which holds the audio disk has gone tits up .
play out seemed to latch on to something from a few days ago with 6
second pauses . but now nothing !
i have text Jon for a solution but he's away for for a couple of days.
however Tune in is a diffent problem at their end it seems ?.
nick.
From: sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:24 AM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
The Streema one still seems to be playing an old test stream and loads
of
pauses as of this morning.
When it worked on Sunday it seemed really good.
When I click on Jon's link to the test stream all my computer wants to
do is
download aac (whatever that is), which of course fails. Am I doing
something wrong?
I am assuming when we get this all sorted we will start
publicising.....just
wondering when we can do that?
Sarah
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Bell
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:56 AM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Morning all,
Listening in this morning to this stream below, so far, sounds good, no
pauses, everything flows, interesting choice of tunes! (Is this
playlisted
Nick, or random from Music database?)
Out of interest, how long to do we leave the Tune-in stream to "sync
up"
before we get in touch with them?
Rgds
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hrock-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of sarah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 16 April 2018 22:44
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] Re: test stream
Been checking out the test stream. Loads of silence now between clips
of
audio..... was that intentional?
I thought it sounded better with clips running close together with no
long
pregnant pauses between. Doesn't flow now.
Sarah
-----Original Message-----
From: jon bird
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:10 PM
To: hrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [hrock] test stream
I see Nick has got everything wired up then and we have a working test
stream which is at...
http://streaming03.zfast.co.uk:8086/aac
this *isn't* the one going out on the website, it's purely for our
internal
consumption and of course will be subject to interruptions as we fiddle
around with stuff.
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