Bob, I agree, but I didn't think that changing "!" to "|" would be controversial... I could see that changing "a_gnd", etc... to "A_gnd", etc... might result in discussion... So do you want me o change those too, or leave them as is? Arpad ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: Bob Ross [mailto:bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:59 AM To: milabont@xxxxxxxxx Cc: Muranyi, Arpad; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ibis-macro] Re: Private copy of BIRD100.2 for rewiev Arpad: The only caution is that minor changes should be pointed out. One quick editorial change is to replace a_gnd and a_extref with A_gnd and A_extref, if it is not too late. However, there is always a risk that a minor editorial change is controversial. Bob Mike LaBonte (milabont) wrote: > No objection, go for it! > > -----Original Message----- > From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 1:57 PM > To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Private copy of BIRD100.2 for rewiev > > Thanks Mike for your comments. > > 1) I will add something in the introduction to mention the > change to BIRD91.3 > > 2) I know about that, and I was hoping to slip in an editorial > by doing this to make the drawings more consistent... > However, since their caption is changing, I thought I could > just grab the pictures too and take care of everything all > at once. > > Do you or anyone else object to this? > > Thanks, > > Arpad > ================================================================ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike LaBonte > (milabont) > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:57 AM > To: Muranyi, Arpad; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Private copy of BIRD100.2 for rewiev > > Arpad, > > I'm glad I read the BIRD because I understand it better now. So I think > it is well worded. Comments: > > 1) The introduction does not mention that this BIRD affects both the > approved IBIS spec as well as another BIRD. A formality, but it should > mention that BIRD91.3 is affected. > > 2) Some of the lines changed in the BIRD91.3 section have nothing to do > with the new keywords. For example, this picture seems to just change > from using exclamation to pipe: > > Replace: > | +===================+ > | ! "Model Unit" ! > | D_receive ---<! AMS code !--- A_puref > | ! D_to_A and A_to_D !--- A_pdref > | D_drive --->! conversions !--- A_signal > | ! provided by !--- A_pcref > | D_enable --->! model author !--- A_gcref > > | ! ! > | +===================+ > | Model Unit consists only of AMS code > > | (a_gnd and a_extref are not shown) > | > | Figure 5: AMS Model Unit, using an I/O buffer as an example > | > | > | +===================================================+ > | ! "Model Unit" +-------+! > | ! +--------+ | |! > | D_receive --!-<| A_to_D |--< (analog receive ports) --<| |!-- > A_puref > | ! +--------+ | |! > | ! | |!-- > A_pdref > | ! +--------+ | SPICE |! > | D_drive --!->| D_to_A |--> (analog drive ports) -->| code |!-- > A_signal > | ! +--------+ | |! > | ! | |!-- > A_pcref > | ! +--------+ | |! > | D_enable --!->| D_to_A |--> (analog enable ports) -->| |!-- > A_gcref > | ! +--------+ | |! > | ! +-------+! > | +===================================================+ > | Model Unit consists of SPICE code plus A_to_D and D_TO_A > converters > | (references for D_to_A and A_to_D converters not shown) > | > | Figure 6: SPICE Model Unit, using an I/O buffer as an example > | > > With: > |* +===================+ > |* | "Model Unit" | > |* D_receive ---<| AMS code |--- A_puref > |* | D_to_A and A_to_D |--- A_pdref > |* D_drive --->| conversions |--- A_signal > |* | provided by |--- A_pcref > |* D_enable --->| model author |--- A_gcref > > |* | | > |* +===================+ > |* Model Unit consists only of AMS code > > |* (a_gnd and a_extref are not shown) > |* > |* Figure 5: AMS Model Unit, using an I/O buffer as an example > | > | > | > |* +==================================================+ > |* | "Model Unit" +--------+| > |* | +--------+ | || > |* D_receive --|-<| A_to_D |--<(analog receive ports)--<| ||-- > A_puref > |* | +--------+ | A pure || > |* | | analog ||-- > A_pdref > |* | +--------+ | I/O || > |* D_drive --|->| D_to_A |-->(analog drive ports) -->| buffer ||-- > A_signal > |* | +--------+ | model || > |* | | ||-- > A_pcref > |* | +--------+ | || > |* D_enable --|->| D_to_A |-->(analog enable ports) -->| ||-- > A_gcref > |* | +--------+ | || > |* | +--------+| > |* +==================================================+ > |** Model Unit consists of SPICE, VHDL-A(MS), Verilog-A(MS) code > plus > |** A_to_D and D_TO_A converters > |* (references for D_to_A and A_to_D converters not shown) > |* > |* Figure 6: An analog-only Model Unit, using an I/O buffer as an > example > | > > In fact, some * lines look unchanged, and only 3 lines look like they > need to change. > > That's all, it's very nice. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:42 PM > To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ibis-macro] Private copy of BIRD100.2 for rewiev > > Hello everyone, > > This is a private copy of BIRD100.2 for your review. > I would like to get your feedback on it before we release it publicly, > which I am hoping to do this Friday to meet the requirements for being > able to vote on it in the next IBIS Summit Teleconference. > > Please send me your comments if you have any before the end of Thursday > this week. > > Thanks, > > Arpad > ==================================================== > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > IBIS Macro website: http://www.sisoft.com/ibis-macro IBIS Macro > archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/ibis-macro > To unsubscribe send an email: > To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: unsubscribe > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > IBIS Macro website: http://www.sisoft.com/ibis-macro IBIS Macro > archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/ibis-macro > To unsubscribe send an email: > To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: unsubscribe > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > IBIS Macro website: http://www.sisoft.com/ibis-macro > IBIS Macro archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/ibis-macro > To unsubscribe send an email: > To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: unsubscribe > -- Bob Ross Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC Teraspeed Labs 121 North River Drive 13610 SW Harness Lane Narragansett, RI 02882 Beaverton, OR 97008 401-284-1827 503-430-1065 http://www.teraspeed.com 503-246-8048 Direct bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Teraspeed is a registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website: http://www.sisoft.com/ibis-macro IBIS Macro archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe