Scot, I think a better picture is: TxTerm --- TxDie --- TxBump -- TxPkg -- channel -- RxPkg -- RxBump -- RxDie --- RxTerm | | | | TxPad RxPad Walter Walter Katz 303.449-2308 Mobile 720.333-1107 wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx www.sisoft.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott McMorrow [mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:25 PM To: Walter Katz Cc: IBIS-ATM Subject: Re: [ibis-macro] another silly IBIS-AMI question about deriving the impulse response of a channel Walter, You are misinterpreting my picture. I was showing the network of just a Tx or Rx. When I say "network" I truly mean a circuit network. Let me create a better picture of the entire channel. TxTerm --- TxDie --- TxBump -- TxPkg -- channel -- RxPkg -- RxBump -- RxDie --- RxTerm | | | | TxPad RxPad For a 50 ohm single-ended channel TxTerm = 50 ohm RxTerm = 50 ohm TxPad = some high impedance RxPad = some high impedance Lumped approximations between TxTerm/TxPad and RxTerm/RxPad do not hold What I was showing was just one part of the total channel. (50 ohm)RxBump --- Network --- RxTerm (50 ohm) | | RxPad (10k ohm)