They are in the VoiceOver Utility under the Navigation category. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Oct 11, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Kim Kilpatrick <kimjkilpatrick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Sorry to be so dense but where do I find these settings and how do I set them? > Kim > > On 2013-10-11, at 5:08 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> If your mouse cursor is not set to ignore your voice over cursor or you have >> cursor tracking turned off, you might have this issue. >> >> On Oct 11, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Kim Kilpatrick <kimjkilpatrick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Could be. >> I think I will go back to saving them all as I created a folder to save them >> in. Then I can delete whatever I don't want. >> Smile! >> kim >> >> On 2013-10-11, at 5:02 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> I understand but it's not hard to delete them. >>> >>> This seems to be an recurring issue which makes me tend to believe that you >>> may have a cursor alignment issue. >>> >>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 4:55 PM, Kim Kilpatrick <kimjkilpatrick@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes I have done that David. >>> Saved attachments but sometimes there are more than one and I only want to >>> save one or two. >>> Smile! >>> kim >>> >>> On 2013-10-11, at 4:01 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What type of attachment is it? also, you can use the file menu and save >>>> attachments if you like, they will go to the download folder on your mac >>>> unless you've changed the default for it. >>>> >>>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 3:56 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> That is odd. I honestly can’t think of anything else. I know I had >>>> another client who had a problem like this and we had to use quick look to >>>> simply open and stave the attachment. >>>> >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> >>>> John D. Panarese >>>> Director >>>> Mac for the Blind >>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>> >>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION >>>> >>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>> >>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Kim Kilpatrick <kimjkilpatrick@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Still did not work. Very weird. >>>>> kim >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-10-11, at 3:40 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You are absolutely sure you are on the file? This works all of the time >>>>>> for me. It sounds like the cursors might be out of waco. Try >>>>>> control-option-command-F5 when you are on the attachment and then try >>>>>> the VO-shift-m command. That’s the only thing that I can think of at >>>>>> the moment. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Take Care >>>>>> >>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>> Director >>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>> >>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION >>>>>> >>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>> >>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Kim Kilpatrick <kimjkilpatrick@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Did not work for some odd reason. >>>>>>> kim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2013-10-11, at 3:26 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Make sure you interact with the message once you open it. Then use >>>>>>>> the VO arrows to navigate to the attached file. VoiceOver should >>>>>>>> identify it as an embedded file of some kind. Then do the VO-shift-m >>>>>>>> on it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Kim Kilpatrick <kimjkilpatrick@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It did not work. All it did was give me a copy or speech menu. >>>>>>>>> Not sure why. >>>>>>>>> I only have one attachment could this be why? >>>>>>>>> Kim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2013-10-11, at 3:07 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When you open the message, navigate down to the specific attachment >>>>>>>>>> you want to save. Then do a VO-shift-m and choose, Save Attachment >>>>>>>>>> from the shortcut menu. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>>>>>>> Director >>>>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and >>>>>>>>>> LION >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Kim Kilpatrick >>>>>>>>>> <kimjkilpatrick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> How do you right click again if you are totally blind? >>>>>>>>>>> Kim >>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-10-11, at 2:50 PM, David Hilbert Poehlman >>>>>>>>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> yes, right click on the attachment and choose save attachment. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Kim Kilpatrick >>>>>>>>>>>> <kimjkilpatrick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, 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