[mac4theblind] Re: navigation and focus issue
- From: John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 11:16:40 -0500
If this is a new system out of the box, first try resetting VoiceOver
preferences in the VO Utility from the File Menu. I have seen this actually
fix some odd behavior. It could very well be a Vo setting. It's not a cure
all, but any step towards solving a problem could be the ultimate solution.
Obviously, what you are experiencing should nt be happening. So, again,
we need to look at the system itself and find out what specifically is causing
the behavior. If you like, please feel free to contact me off list and we can
talk about solutions on the phone or by Skype.
Actually, in the story I told you, it was a Windows problem. All of the
systems were having problems on that particular network. I believe it was how
the IT guy set up the network as he struck me as one of those guys who knows a
little about a lot, and, thus, is dangerous to others. I just found it amusing
that my Mac got on the network by just connecting and entering the pass key.
On the Windows laptop, at first, it couldn't see the network and then, when it
did, the pass key was not allowing the system to join the network. It was the
oddest thing.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain
Lion
AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> On Mar 5, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the feedback, I never ment to atact apple or the mac
> directly, and yes, mac is stil the better way for most things. I just
> ment to say that I find it strange if you buy the thing with the
> system bran new, that those behavior happens. And the problem with
> what you describing regarding the network connection, well, that is
> always different for everyone. I had know problems what so ever to
> connect in windows to any wifi ever. So not sure why windows is to
> blame, if so, then mac can be to blame for other things as well. At
> the end of the day, we just want to make the best of the experience,
> and its within that light, that I was bringing these things up. I hope
> it won't be necessary to repair or reinstall, but if so, I guess it
> have to be done. Yes, we have apple support here, but not really
> people that knows about accessibility or voiceover. I'm not in the US
> where most things are just available from the start. This mac is
> hartly ever used, so that is why its such a concern, but anyway, I
> guess what I must gather from all this is that its not really useful
> to rite on mailing lists often, rather have a tech support person
> stuck to you or some sort of remoat utility for long distance
> investigation. I wish Edward never left this list.
>
> On 05/03/2015, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> OK, so, with all of that said, have you considered that you are dealing
>> with a system specific or situational specific standpoint? In other words,
>> to rant about the problems you are having and then to generalize them as
>> being problems with the Mac is kind of ridiculous when others are not
>> necessarily experiencing the same issues. In fact, to me, if I was the only
>> one having said issues, I'd wonder if there is something going on with my
>> system itself Long Before I'd start blaming Apple, the Mac or VoiceOver.
>>
>> Maybe, you have a setting you have inadvertently changed. Maybe, it's
>> permissions problems that are acting up. You might have to do a disk repair
>> or even a OS reinstallation. Contacting Apple support and getting a senior
>> advisor on the line might be a great approach to have them witness what you
>> are experiencing.
>>
>> I have not experienced the kinds of things you are reporting personally. Am
>> I saying you are imagining things or making them up? Of course not. People
>> have offered solutions and have tried to assist. That's all we can do. If
>> you think Windows is a better alternative, good luck. I love when people
>> make statements like that because they then spend a few days back in Windows
>> and remember why they left that platform in the first place.
>>
>> Take it from someone who has to use Windows for a teaching contract.
>> The Mac is a pleasure compared to dealing with the nonsense that many basic
>> tasks in Windows requires.
>> For example, connecting a Windows laptop to a wireless network was an
>> olympic event that would have taken me five seconds to accomplish with my
>> Mac. How do I know this? Well, I had my Mac Book Pro with me at the job
>> site, and it took me ... five seconds to join the network it took about a
>> half hour of futzing on the Windows machine to accomplish. It was most
>> amusing to have the Windows IT guy clearly being tortured by the fact my Mac
>> got on his network with a few keystrokes and he couldn't figure out why the
>> Windows Laptop wasn't doing it at first.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain
>> Lion
>>
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> You no this fred just shows me that people don't listen and read
>>> properly. I said I experience this in safari as well, not just chrome.
>>> So deleting chrome will not help. Funny that other people don't seem
>>> to have these issues. I am getting to the point where I slowly
>>> understand why its stil necessary to use windows for some tasks. It
>>> never presented these issues for know reason. And is much faster than
>>> mac in general. Many times I open a text field to type in safari, and
>>> it just don't allow me to type, and many times when I go to the
>>> desktop I don't see all my volumes while I know that there is more
>>> than one connected, I have to leave desktop and mess around and
>>> randomly it will start appearing again so I can eject them. Very
>>> frustrating and not really exceptable from a product wich is world
>>> wide excepted to just work. Again, I use all the keystroaks as
>>> required, so I just don't get this.
>>>
>>> On 04/03/2015, David hilbert poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> wipe chrome from your system entirely and use Safari
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Jonnie Appleseed With His Hands-on Technolog(eye)s touching the
>>>> internet
>>>> reducing technology's disabilities one byte at a time
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2015, at 07:40, Daniel McGee <venables134@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Use Safari
>>>>> On 4 Mar 2015, at 11:49, Rory <rory820@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Quit using chrome, and see if that fixes the problem
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wen I load up a page in chrome, sometimes it says just "emty" even
>>>>>> though I reload the page. And in both safari and chrome I sometimes
>>>>>> get the situation where when I want to type the web address it just
>>>>>> ding at me. Why is that? How can I solve this?
>>>>>>
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