First, very cool project survey site :) I have the stats for the python my friend made. For now, I'll just call it the "Python MD" by additing his initials :) Pivot angle 70 Trail -25.5 Seat height 25 bb height 38 bb seat diff 13 ground clearance 9 wheelbase 121 weight 12.5 (so far) bb-fwa 38 bb-eos 72 turning circle ? front tubing 51 x 13 x 1.6 I took some pictures of it and will make the pages and post the link tomorrow, time willing. He took it for its first test ride this morning, and it worked like a charm. He rode away on it first try. Most definite confirmation that everything was fairly lined up :) He also said he liked the "feel" of it better than mine. That might be due to the fact that mine is more of a stretch for him than his is, as I'm about a foot taller than him. Either way though, he could ride both. So, all I have to do is wait for a little nice weather to melt the snow, then I'll learn to ride them too. > As a start, today I created the project survey page: > > http://www.python.tieflieger.net/projects.html > > This should help to compare the different projects in > various aspects. > > Any more projects, data, corrections and hints are welcome. > > Jürgen. > > PS: Yuck - I measured the weight of P3 with 20 kg now. > 1 kg is supposed to be dust and mud and dirt! ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist at freelists.org Listmaster: Juergen Mages jmages@xxxxxx ============================================================