My friend's python clone pictures and info are up and located here: http://bikes.jkcc.com/python%20clone.htm#pythonmd I'll measure the turning circles when I get them someplace big enough and snow-free. As they are still bare steel, I don't want insta-rust by letting them get wet if we don't have to. As for their low weight, we don't have all the components on them yet so that's a few pounds saved right there. On the upside though, I found a source for some 38 x 13 x 1.6 so the next one I make, I'll use that for the front end and try an angle closer to 65 instead of 70 degrees. It should be a little ligher right off the bat, and hopefully a little more stable to steer as well. Additionally, our third friend got on and tried mine, and it looks like he'll be able to learn it fairly quickly too, so maybe I'll ty the lighter tube and different angle on his instead. > Good news from you 25hz, > > can´t wait to see the pictures of the MD python. You said that it > looks even better than yours! > > I wonder how you all can achieve that low weight? The same for > Torben. 13 kg are amazing. I measured the P3 once again, now > without all the dirt it had gathered from off-road riding: 19 kg. > > About the turning circle: It is not the circle that you can ride > when you are on the bike. It is the theoretical minimum that one > gets while pushing the bike around with the maximum steering > angle. With better practice you might approach this value more and > more. > > Jürgen. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "25hz" <25hz@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <python@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 5:04 AM > Subject: [python] Re: New Project for project site > > > > First, very cool project survey site :) I have the stats for the python > > my > > friend made. For now, I'll just call it the "Python MD" by additing his > > initials :) > > > > Pivot angle 70 > > Trail -25.5 > > Seat height 25 > > bb height 38 > > bb seat diff 13 > > ground clearance 9 > > wheelbase 121 > > weight 12.5 (so far) > > bb-fwa 38 > > bb-eos 72 > > turning circle ? > > front tubing 51 x 13 x 1.6 > > > > I took some pictures of it and will make the pages and post the link > > tomorrow, time willing. He took it for its first test ride this morning, > > and it worked like a charm. He rode away on it first try. Most definite > > confirmation that everything was fairly lined up :) He also said he > > liked > > the "feel" of it better than mine. That might be due to the fact that > > mine > > is more of a stretch for him than his is, as I'm about a foot taller than > > him. Either way though, he could ride both. So, all I have to do is wait > > for a little nice weather to melt the snow, then I'll learn to ride them > > too. > > ============================================================ > > This is the Python Mailinglist at freelists.org > > Listmaster: Juergen Mages jmages@xxxxxx > > ============================================================ > ============================================================ This is the Python Mailinglist at freelists.org Listmaster: Juergen Mages jmages@xxxxxx ============================================================