I agree with this excedpt I use Espeak with Klatt
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From: raspberry-vi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <raspberry-vi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Glenn K0LNY
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 9:36 PM
To: raspberry-vi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [raspberry-vi] Re: Thanks for your hard work
In my opinion, Ubuntu-Mate installed on a live USB stick is the best experience.
You can customize it the way you like, and after that, install it to your
computer if you wish, but you don't have to, but it will install it with your
changes.
I use the Voxin synth, which is known as Eloquence in Windows.
Glenn
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From: "Richard Wells" <richwels@xxxxxxx>
To: <raspberry-vi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2021 8:32 PM
Subject: [raspberry-vi] Re: Thanks for your hard work
Speaking of Linux desktop environment, I want to ask what I hope is not a
subjective question. What is the easiest to get up and running and least likely
to crash combination of Linux distribution, speech solution, graphical user
interface, etc? My command line knowledge is a little beyond beginner, but I do
have a 64-bit laptop that would be a good candidate for learning more about
this. I am hearing lots about Ubuntu-mate and Orca. I also understand that
there is an alternative to Speak-up in the shell environment. Feel free to
write me privately at richwels@xxxxxxx if this question should not be on this
list. Thanks
On 1/3/2021 5:30 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
As mentioned before, I used a raspberry pi 2/3 for nearly a year as my===========================================================
primary computer, until I accidentally obtained a windows all-in-one
machine, which now has linux on it as well, but when I got it, it had
windows 8.1.
It's relatively easy to use linux for nearly everything you'd do in
windows. There are a few things where windows is necessary, but those
things are few and far between, and the gap is narrowing all the time.
For gaming, there's no option but windows, since I've tried convincing
windows developers to develop for linux too, and it's more like
ramming one's head into a brick wall, even if the language they use
for developing works just fine on linux, nobody cares, for some
reason, windows developers believe there is no other os, and
therefore, windows is all they should write for. I've proven it's
trivial to make programs (yes, even ones for the blind) work on both
windows and linux (and we can now throw mac in there too), depending
on the language used for development. It's all about the toolsets, but I
digress.
Linux can be used for everything you'd ever want to do on the
computer, the only thing besides games you'd actually need windows for
is if you are in a work environment that uses windows, and you
absolutely must have interchangeability with other employees on
windows. It's certainly possible to convert documents for use with
linux, but they don't always convert back in the exact same form they
were before being moved to linux, so some users get uptight about that
kind of thing, thus using windows is the only way to satisfy those
users. All other things can be done, email, web browsing, text
editing, conferencing, gaming, and just abuout anything else you can
think of. Obviously, games on linux aren't the same games on windows,
but there's till games out there if you're willing to search a bit.
With that said, I'd like to point out that again, most of these things
can be done without the gui, though there are things that do require a
GUI, but again, those things are few, as mentioned elsewhere in this
thread, Just like the Mac, users can get along quite well without
windows, and there's nothing stopping folks from doing exactly that.
I dropped windows entirely in 2005, and didn't return to it until over
10 years later when the aforementioned pc entered my orbit, and this
was largely done with the mac and linux boxes, though the raspberry pi
helped in there too. :)
Windows is *not* required in a modern world, it's just the most often
used os, and therefore, everyone who doesn't know better believes it's
the *only* os, and many are loathe to believe other options exist, and
of those who do believe such, often they don't believe the
alternatives meet the same usability standards as the windows ones,
and as long time linux users know, this simply isn't true.
On 1/2/2021 10:22 PM, Zachary Shifflett (Redacted sender zshifflett
for
DMARC) wrote:
The discussion of Linux as a home desktop environment is interesting===========================================================
to me. I am a windows user and have been for pretty much my entire
computing life.
I have started learning a bit here and there about Linux system
administration, but I don’t see how a blind person could really use a
Linux gui as a viable option to replace windows or even mac.
I’d love to be proven wrong on this, as I think it would be an
interesting experiment to see how far I could take a Linux desktop,
but any system where I don’t have a highly functional browser,
spreadsheet and word processor at the very minimum is gonna be a no
go for me as a personal computer.
We even have image descriptions in NVDA and Jaws now for all those
pesky facebook memes.
Any thoughts on this?
Again, not trying to say it can’t be done, I would just like to learn
how if so.
Cheers,
Zach
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From: Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 9:14 PM
To: raspberry-vi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [raspberry-vi] Re: Thanks for your hard work
Hi Vojta,
There are companies like IBM who do have Linux running on their
desktops therefore do not lose hope. However, all computing need not
be done for employment. It is perfectly ok to use Windows at work and Linux
at home.
Pranav
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<raspberry-vi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Vojtech šmiro
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 11:40 PM
To: raspberry-vi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [raspberry-vi] Re: Thanks for your hard work
Hello,
yes, never mind. I have Raspberry half a year, because I like
Raspberry very much, because no noise, no many electrical power, the
best computer what I had. I don't need laptop or desktop. I have
laptop and desktop, but it is turned off. And my friend Libor and my
girlfriend Mirka have Raspberry too. And our friend Pavel has it too.
We all are blind and we use it. In the Czech Republic is interrest in
Raspberry Pi and linux from some visually impaired people. Many
people has Windows, but now, there are some people interrested in
linux. But many of them use linux only like a toy or some
interresting additional system. I am really uncomfortable, because to
be employed in some company with linux is really hard. I don't know
any visually impeired people, who is employd and use linux.
Best regards
Vojta.
Dne 02. 01. 21 v 16:14 Michael A Ray (Redacted sender mike.ray for
DMARC) napsal(a):
Sorry Vojtech. I got your name wrong. And I think you've been here===========================================================
for a while. I lose track of who is and who is not a longer-term member.
We had about 250 list members last time I checked.
It would be interesting to know the international spread.
On 02/01/2021 14:48, Vojtěch šmiro wrote:
Hello,
I am joining too and thanking you Mike and all people who works on
Raspberry Pi web sites and Raspberry Pi OS accessibility and all
what users need.
Thanks again for your hard work.
Best regards
Vojta.
Dne 01. 01. 21 v 18:00 Michael A Ray (Redacted sender mike.ray for
DMARC) napsal(a):
Thanks Tony.===========================================================
Mike, G4XBF
On 01/01/2021 16:54, Anthony McCloskey wrote:
Hi Mike:
Just wanted to thank you for your hard work with this list. Also
I wanted to wish you a happy new year.
Tony McCloskey, WA3CAO
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