Hi Paul, I thought so, but just wanted to be sure! Now let us all start not wondering about "Re: FW: FW"or "Re: Re:" for example! I like to try at least to have a half-decent subject line as far as possible! I do hate it though when some of indeed most of the subject line is edged out! Thanks for teasing that out for us! Tony. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Traynor To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:19 PM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Messages in Subject Bar Hi Tony, Yes, they would. Paul. From: vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vip_students-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Sweeney Sent: 12 November 2008 13:40 To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vip_students] Re: Messages in Subject Bar Hi Paul, Now I have had more time to study your forwarded mail which was very interesting indeed let me ask you if when you would receive a mail and you would see the words [vip-students] RE: for example, would those letters count with say the 64 characters (including spaces) for OE for example in the subject line? In other words should we take that in to account when writing the subject line too in order that the sender's subject message created by the sender remains intact at the other end? Trust that I haven't lost your other listers at this stage! <smile> Thanks, Tony. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Traynor To: vip_students@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:11 AM Subject: [vip_students] Re: Messages in Subject Bar Hi Tony, Good point about the amount of characters in a subject line. Read the below article I took from the web which indicates why a subject line displaying correctly is important and also gives you a quick rundown of the amount of characters you can type including spaces into popular email clients. It's proven that the FROM field of your emails is the MOST important factor in getting your messages opened. But after that, it's surely the subject line. Many ezine (email newsletter) publishers seem to consider their subject lines as afterthoughts, which is a bad idea. Example: Suppose you get an e-mail with the subject line, "Get Rid of Your Debt Today." I don't know about you, but my right pinkie is already poised over the delete key! However, this could be an e-zine I've subscribed to that just isn't announcing itself properly. Now, what if the subject line instead read: "[Frank's Financial Tips] Get Rid of Your Debt Today" See the difference? By listing the title of your e-zine, it reinforces your brand, it allows your readers to filter your e-zine into a separate folder in their e-mail inbox, and most important, it lets your recipient knows your message is NOT spam. Now I do see some e-zines that ONLY list the e-zine name. For the example above it could just say, "Frank's Financial Tips." That's okay, but it doesn't tell me what's in the issue or why I should open it. Remember you're competing with dozens of other e-mail subject lines in your readers' inboxes, so give them a reason to open yours. Studies show that also using the reader's NAME in the subject line can dramatically increase open rates, but I reserve this tactic for special promotions I send out that are time-sensitive and I want great response to (such as announcing an upcoming teleseminar). Example: "Jennifer, join me next Tuesday?" This helps get the reader's attention and builds curiosity so she opens it right away. If you want to use this tactic, you'll need a list service that supports "personalization." No matter what subject line you write, keep it short and sweet, because many e-mail programs cut off long subject lines. Here are the maximum subject line lengths (including spaces) in some popular e-mail programs: AOL: 52 characters Hotmail: 45 characters Outlook Express: 64 characters Yahoo: 80 characters Don't go - y counting spaces, but just keep in mind that shorter is - ter. 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