Ken, I scanned a 1600 page history book for my daughter. The book did contain a plethora of photographs, maps and diagrams. I knew I could not make it perfect prior to submission to Bookshare. But I did use the list of tables, figures and charts in the book to locate the pages containing optical junk blocks, which I removed. A search for occurrences of the tab character allowed me to locate and destroy other junk areas of the book. Wherever I removed a map, figure and so on, I added the metatext: <figure not shown> or something similar followed whenever possible by the original title and print description of the stuff I removed. By the time I finished the rough cleanup, the volume was 99.3% spelled correctly, according to K1K. My particular customer was my daughter, and she deserved the best I could do. Her success at school depended on it. Our PAYING Bookshare customer do deserve the same. The fact that I am completely blind does not exonerate me from the moral obligation of creating a quality product. Guido Guido D. Corona IBM Accessibility Center, Austin Tx. IBM Research, Phone: (512) 838-9735 Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx Visit my weekly Accessibility WebLog at: http://www-3.ibm.com/able/weblog/corona_weblog.html "Kenneth A. Cross" <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 08/09/2004 09:27 PM Please respond to bksvol-discuss To <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject [bksvol-discuss] Re: 550 books in the download queue Let me present another point of view. Almost all advanced science books will have maps, diagrams, figures, pictures, formulae, and other material which will not scan well. I don't want to be denied science scans just because of this. I would rather have the book in a quasi-readable form than no book at all. In a similar vain, many history books have elaborate maps, figures, pictures, and foreign words which scanning in its present form won't make accessible to the blind. Again, I would prefer to have what can be scanned. I have read many books which have poor scanning of the top line--title or whatever--but where the total content of the book is perfect. Now I will grant that the more pedestrian the book, the more readable it is likely to be, but there is need for the others. And, by the way, anything like twenty thousand books, currently in copyright rather than public domain, is a goal we are no where near. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 9:32 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: 550 books in the download queue > Are downloads rated before one downloads them? I > haven't validated that many and I guess I hadn't > noticed. When I finish what I'm doing and I get to > validate again I'll take some fair ones if they're of > interest to me. If not, I'm willing to reject them. > What's the consensus? > > Cindy > > P.S. This 812+ book is,, surprsingly to me, very > interesting. I hope when it gets into the collection > that people aren't discouraged by its size. I'll > explain more about it when I'm ready to upload (it > will take a fewmore weeks because I'm only half-way > through -- not only mahy pages but many lines of small > print). > > > --- Pam Quinn <quinns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I for one would be in favor of weeding out all of > > the "fair" rated > > books. I don't plan to submit any more such books, > > and maybe the ones > > in the download list should be rejected. Just my > > opinion. > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > >