Hi Madeleine, Deborah and all, This is great; thanks very much! From: Madeleine Linares Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 4:14 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Footnote number in text Hi Deborah, Thanks for this. This is a great example of footnotes! Best, Madeleine From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deborah Murray Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 5:25 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Footnote number in text Hi Vivian, I don't usually put the asterisk before the number in the section at the bottom of the page. This is what a page looks like when I have footnotes: blank line page number blank line Mary had a little lamb, it's fleece *1 was white as snow. And everywhere that Mary went *2 the lamb was sure to go. * * * 1. The wooly hair of a sheep 2. Except to the grocery store. blank line page break I guess I don't see why you couldn't use the asterisks at the bottom of the page. But you mention visual clutter and so it seems unnecessarily cluttered. I usually use the 3 asterisks when, as in your example, a chapter or section heading is followed by a brief quotation that is intended to be sort of an introduction to what follows. It's been too long since I could see a page, but I can see that it might be a bit cluttered. I would certainly be open to leaving them out in this case. Hopefully others will wade in! Deborah From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vivian Flores Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 8:12 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Footnote number in text Thanks Evan, good to know you agree also! Vivian At 07:41 PM 11/9/2012 -0500, you wrote: "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml";> Well, since Deborah has expressed her opinion, I will express mine, which is that I agree with Deborah's opinion. <smile> Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: Deborah Murray To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Footnote number in text Hi Vivian, I don't think there has been any definitive decision on that. I have expressed my opinion on it before and will repeat it. Square brackets have a specific meaning when they are used, particularly in nonfiction. They usually mean text that has been added or altered by the author. Footnotes at the bottom of the page most certainly don't fit that description. I think we need to be more sparing in our use of additional brackets and parentheses. Just my opinion... Deborah From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vivian Flores Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 7:20 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Footnote number in text Are we enclosing the footnotes at the bottom of the page with square brackets? Vivian At 06:46 PM 11/9/2012 -0500, you wrote: Hi Cindy, Just one correction--no asterisk after the number. Deborah From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Rosenthal Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 5:45 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Footnote number in text Th rule decided upon recently is space, asterisk number and another asterisk after the number. In the book I'm proofing when there is a new paragraph after the footnote number (i.e., the return symbol (I'm assuming that is sufficient, i.e., that I don't also need a space.i.e. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:52 PM, John Simpson <John@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I am trying to finish up a book I I am proofreading. The book has about 200 footnotes. They are usually shown at the end of a sentence as an asterisk followed by a number (e.g. *14). I have not been able to find any mention of how to handle footnotes in the online instructions. If anyone has a suggestion for me, I would greatly appreciate it. Also, I doubt if this is the first time this issue has surfaced. Is there a way to search the discussion archives to see if this has been brought up before? I'd much rather use my time than yours to find out the answers to these questions. Thanks all.